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hriehl1

I've read the Casey and Calder books so many times, I can describe the chemical chain-reactions that go on inside a battery... but I still do not know how to wire a boat. Maybe it is me, but some authors jump deep into the theoretical weeds and forget the practical. I am making some changes with the...

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Thanks... absent any additional replies to the contrary, I think I'll go with one 200 AH golf cart battery bank. I too have read Calder's and Casey's books and the 12-Volt Bible (probably 10 times each), but I just get buried in all the advanced power management methods and devices they describe. I ...

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Thanks all... In my case, I don't think the manual switch needs to be momentary as the pump makes enough noise in my small cabin that one always knows if the pump is on. I'm also putting a counter in the always-on path to monitor pump activity during the week when the boat is unattended. The manual ...

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Hinterhoeller HR 28 with 15 HP 2-stroke outboard with a 6 or 10 amp alternator (not yet sure which). Prior Owner had 2 separate battery banks with the typical 1-2-Both-Off switch. There is no Automatic Charging Relay, so I presume he ran the selector on Both when running the engine. I am questioning...

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Below is a proposed wiring diagram for a bilge pump... in essence I want two separate positive paths to the pump: 1. Fused always-on path through a float switch (automatic mode); and 2. Fused SPST panel switch (manual mode). I know a bilge pump panel switch would be more typical for a similar result...

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Great advice... wish I'd paid more attention. Now what I have is a wasted day and botched job. 1. Never, ever think you can happily save $5 by cutting bulk cloth into 6-inch strips instead of buying nice edge-finished 6-inch tape. Oh, I saved $5 alright. And all those hanging down threads from unhem...

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1968 Hinterhoeller HR 28 After a few small structural & cosmetic repairs on my O'Day Daysailor with hardware store resin with mat & cloth (it worked well enough), I've become convinced Epoxy may be worth the extra cost on my "big boat". I am not doing large-scale repair/replace pro...

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1968 Hinterhoeller 28 I've finished chiselling out a problematic plastic headliner and finished and painted the exposed fiberglass ceiling. Where the ceiling meets the wood cabinetry had been finished with caulk which I had to dig out to remove the headliner. With cabinetry now sanded & oiled an...

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Springtime follow-up. This arrangement held up VERY well through a tough winter. I built it with ample clearance over the deck so that I had access to the deck and interior through the winter. I was careful to tie carpet pieces over every hardpoint and the tarp appears it will go another several win...

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Rachel... you said it better than I could.. but it captures my outlook accurately. Clean and neat? Yes. Chosen for a photo shoot for Good Old Boat? Not...so...much.

My very best most careful finish work would make most of you cringe.

And feel free to use "Hank" instead of hriehl1.

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A public "thank you" to Quetzalsailor for sending me his two old Kenyon stoves, one a gimbaled propane and the other a simple pressurized alcohol countertop unit. My boat's prior owner had a totally bogus propane setup running a propane hose from the outboard well through bulkheads (no cha...

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Those voices are not evil... they are the voices of one who takes pride in a well-maintained and good-looking boat. For me, it need only be safe and reasonably comfortable; looks can be compromised. There are no beams or stringers but the cabin ceiling is slightly arched... the surveyor kept shaking...

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The deck above the cabin is plenty stiff, even with my substantial girth walking about. Since the headliner came out, the boat has seen probably 50 freeze / thaw cycles... a 25 degree sunny day gets it to 35 or 40 in the boat under the tarp. No new ooze. And from the headliner chips (some saucer-siz...

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An update and request for next-step ideas. Many winter night hours later I have the aluminum channels "dug out". Adhesive remover had little affect, SS (by hand) wire brushing had no affect and the Dremel SS wire brush couldn't really get into the channel. But by hand I have these channels...

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Just thought I'd follow up with current status. Spent over 20 hours with hammer and chisel chipping out the headliner in the main cabin (forward headliner gets done this spring, probably another 10 15 hours). Problem definately came from that material as the layup behind it has been dry without any ...

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Did you buy the Hinterhoeller HR28? I bought one this past summer and am refitting, hoping to launch mid summer.

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Oh geez... 1 hour after saying I would not go for a pressurized alcohol unit, here comes one at my very favorite price. Is this a test to see how truly cheap I am? If you've seen American Pickers on TV, you know my affliction... not hoarding, but trading. Quetzalsailor, Thanks very much for your gen...

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Rachel: The "get there and then cook", and "cook breakfrast then leave" approach is the use case. I do not envision much, if any, cooking while underway. Plus, we're all-day coffee drinkers and I am looking for a single-burner gimballed propane unit that hangs on a bulkhead for u...

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Hinterhoeller HR 28 (similar to a Triton) Continuing my budget-driven refit. I need to replace the 2-burner propane camp stove PO used (fed by a 15-foot hose to the outboard well where he used 1# canisters). We'll (mostly) weekend with a desire to prepare comfort-food style hot meals... right betwee...

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Thank you all. We will go without to see how we make out. We can always add one later.

We're trying to keep the investment down until we're sure keelboat ownership suits us.

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I am moving up from trailer-daysailing and refitting a Hinterhoeller HR 28, rather similar to the Triton. Moving into a keel boat, I have much to learn since I've not sailed this boat yet. There is no windlass now for the Danforth anchor; 10 feet of chain and (maybe) 150 feet of 5/8 inch line. Wife ...

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Thought I'd post a photo before putting the cover on. Used EMT conduit and Kover Klamp hardware for the ridgepole, 2 longitudinals at the outside bend of the legs, 5 arching legs and 4 vertical support posts. They all meet where you see carpet pieces zip-tied to the joints. I used old 1x3 slats for ...

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Just thought I'd give an update. I did go the Kover Klamp route (purchased at Defender for a bit less than KK's own website). Two of us, with no prior experience, fashioned a 6-rib frame for my Hinterhoeller 28 for about $175 in KK hardware and another $75 in 3/4-inch EMT conduit. It took us around ...

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I removed a very old mechanical-dial style depth display from my boat that I was told did work "some of the time". I have not (yet) removed the bronze thru-hull transducer with the 2 wire leads and am wondering if this older transducer may work with only a new digital display (assuming the...

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1968 Hinterhoeller HR 28. I was hosing out the interior for some seriously-needed cleaning. All my spraying found its way into the bilge except one area. The photo shows a small hold under the very front of the V-Berth and below the anchor locker (which drains into it). This hold collects and holds ...

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My need is for the Hinterhoeller 28, not the Daysailer. Thanks for the other leads... I'll pursue them. And yes, almost certainly Continental has what I need... I rummaged in the yard for 45 minutes and located some possibles, but no one was there to give a price so I left. Interesting that you indi...

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I am looking for a "sailboat junkyard" to buy two opposing corner-style stern rails (leaving the stern-center open for boarding). I could even get a full pushpit and cut-out the center. I have called and travelled to a place (Continental Yacht) in Quincy Mass but they are never there and d...

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KITTIEanME...

I had seen that some months ago but forgot about it. I took another, closer look and ideas in there should reduce the cost of material I need by $150 or so. Many Thanks.

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Thanks for your replies, though my need is only for a winter cover that will permit access to the interior, not a full shelter. And to serve as a reusable winter cover frame for years to come. That's why I am more attracted to conduit & clamps... easier reusability. Chris Campbell, can you elabo...

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Maine Sail has me sold on the virtues of butyl tape (in fact, he sold me some too) for ordinary bedding purposes. I have a substantial (3/4-inch-thick, probably 5 inches by 9 inches) aluminum (??) casting that serves as the cabintop mast step, and that casting is through-bolted over a bulkhead direc...

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I am not committed to conduit... I considered PVC but dismissed it (perhaps in ignorance) because: 1. I could not find 4-way cross fittings at Home Depot (a quick websearch shows they are available) 2. Bends require fittings (45, 30 degree) which means a LOT of smaller individual pieces. I also worr...

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I decided against a full shelter, but am attracted to using electrical conduit to make a sturdy, reusable cover frame that will allow easy access to the interior and deck of the boat (where most of my work is required). In my research, I've come across two firms making clamps for fabricating a frame...

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There is absolutely no core on this boat... I am certain and it was confirmed by the surveyor. Moisture readings along the entire topsides of the cabin (and entire deck) were bone dry, he couldn't believe it... yet moisture readings on the underside against the headliner were high. Look at the photo...

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1968 Hinterhoeller HR 28 For peace of mind, I had a survey done today before I got in too deep. Happy to say it went VERY well with the only surprises being pleasant ones. There is no core on this boat, which was my biggest worry; deck readings were bone dry and soundings were fine. But... I do have...

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To Maine Sail: Thanks for the great explanation... butyl it will be for me. A couple questions. 1. You said when tightening "Tighten, let sit, tighten, let sit etc. etc.. ". Can you elaborate on the duration of the "let sit" intervals... 5 minutes? an hour? What is the purpose? 2...

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Those Dremel pads look promising... I've ordered a Dremel Tool (which I also need for other uses) and will report on my success.

Thanks

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Short answer, I do not know. But you also now have to consider the ability of the bulkheads on either side carrying 1/2 (each) of that 2500#. More specifically, the base of those bulkheads. Your compression post was no doubt anchored in the keel with a heavy-duty load-spreading design. The footings ...

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Silicone is evil all right. It took 6 hours to remove 4 portlights and scrape the silicone off the boat. Holding a small flexible putty knife perpendicular to the surface, holding the blade with both hands very close to the boat surface and push-pulling a scraping motion made reasonably short work o...

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Quetzalsailor Thanks for the words of encouragement, but that elegant finish-work is not only beyond my talents, it is also (frankly) beyond my own interests. I've acquired this boat with the goal of getting on the water next spring with something structurally safe and sound with not a lot of regard...

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OK Hirilondë, my apologies. I am extremely impressed. While your interior treatment is WAY beyond my modest talents, can you elaborate what you did on the exterior to achieve that framed look and how you assembled the whole thing? If I could duplicate that exterior look, I'd be very very pleased. Ra...

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I have 4 large, (non-standard) sized fixed portlights in the main cabin, all with (probably original) badly-glazed acrylic set in what appears to be a 2-part (interior & exterior mating) aluminum frame-set that is currently (poorly) riveted thru the cabin-sides. I need to remove these 4 portligh...

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I am guessing it was a vent for fresh water. The fresh water tank is now a small flexible type that would not need a vent since it collapses as it is emptied so would not need a vent... but that flexible bag-tank certainly was not original equipment on a 1968 boat.

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I have a 1-inch (or so) outlet fitting in the port hull near the anchor locker... much like my bilge-pump outlets. The hose to it was cut off by the PO 3 or four inches from the interior of the outlet, I have no idea what it may have been for. I'm not comfortable having what is essentially an open h...

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The PO put 32 holes in the cabin sides... one at each corner of 8 portlights to secure curtain rods !! Wouldn't you think he could have come up with something less invasive to hang 8 little curtains (like epoxy, or 5200, or even Gorilla Glue for crying out loud? Oh well. they'll be quick to fill &am...

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Agreed... what I do know is it is definately not cored anywhere except the main cabin roof. That I'll confirm when I next get to it in daylight. I do fear the worst though. Yet soundings topside are all solid and sharp... no dull thuds anywhere.

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Yes... I will Dremel and fair the worst cracks and many other gelcoat chips. I will also install backing plates on all major stress items that did not already have them. I bought a 2' x 5' heavy gage plate of SS (I think from a commercial kitchen counter) for $15 from a local metal recycler from whi...

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Shiney-Rubbery? I'd say yes. When I remove it on a smooth gelcoat surface with a putty knife, it gets most but not all (see photo). What remains can almost be "rolled off" like rubber cement, but not nearly as easy as rubber cement. If it is silicone (which I'm guessing it is), can anythin...

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Thank you... after seeing the success of the butyl tape bedding method in a companion post, I think I'll go that route. This is a job I want to do just once, and do right. I'll willingly cut corners on aesthetics to get on the water sooner, but not with items that will save only a couple hours now b...

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Rachel... I'll have to check on that. I don't even recall the photo's origin but I do not think it was a stanchion base because they are (I think) all square (except maybe the two aft deck-level lifeline terminators, which this photo may be and it did not have a backing plate. I took so many pieces ...

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I really don't know... but it does feel like bathroon tub+tile sealant I've used on home repair jobs.

Curious... what if it is silicone?

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