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Continuing restoration (refit?) of the 1978 PY23. The wooden part of the rudder head was (er...rotten) and crumbled when I removed the 1/4" aluminum plate cheek pieces. Using the outline of the rotten wood and a drawing from the PY23 Owner's Association website I was able to create a new rudder...

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Nice job on the boat! You've put a lot of time and effort in a 15 footer and it shows. I tackled a similar project on a Cape Cory 22. The boat had a serious encounter with a dock in Galveston, Tx. during hurricane Ike and had soft spots in the deck. I recored sections of the deck, repainted the enti...

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Greetings Squidd, How did the centerboard thing work out? I'm asking because I'm restoring a 1978 PY23, the little sister to your PY26. The boat was donated to our youth sailing program and came with a trailer, outboard, and lots of gear. The cabin was a mess (the companionway hatch had blown off an...

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Just wanted to give a shout out and a "thanks!" for this thread. Really cool stuff, and quite inspiring. I may be buying a Typhoon Senior (earlier model of the Cape Dory 22) so I'll be referring back to this thread to keep myself going as I work on her. Thanks. It's a lot of work, but I e...

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More photos of a 1978 PY23 restoration. Gave her a good bath, and removed the black and green algae. The hull and deck still need a good buffing and wax, but should shine up nicely. I tackled the corroded stainless, brass, and carbon steel cockpit drain (which had broken off under the cockpit and wa...

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A Hobie 14 rig, maybe? One sail with a fairly light mast, but you wouldn't have much purchase for your stays on one side. There are lots of simple rigs that might work. How about 2 H12 rigs? 180 sq. ft. total

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There's one on e-bay right now - rudder head for 1" shaft with keyway. Includes tiller head bracket. $60.00 Search Boat Parts and Accessories - Sailing Gear and Hardware - "tiller"

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Is that a PY23 or PY26? It looks familiar. I have a 1978 PY23 that's undergoing restoration. The centerboard pennant standpipe and the keelbolt arrangement are similar. Nice job, and very solid looking, by the way. I am thinking of using some removable material for the cabin sole cover. Teak and hol...

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You might try Boaters Resale Shop in Kemah, TX. They are a marine salvage and used boat parts dealer, and have a warehouse full of sailboat gear. The anodized bronze toe rails on our Cape Dory 22 came from BRS.

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Hmm. Looks like a Tremolino minus one hull. I suppose it would be fairly easy to convert back to a trimaran by utilizing another H16 hull, although that would make it too wide to trailer unless the amas were removable. What does the sailing rig look like?

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I did some research before we accepted the PY23, particularly about the build quality and performance under sail. They are reportedly well built for a production boat and quick for a 23 footer. A former owner stated that "it's not a dinghy and not a keel boat despite of that chunk of iron down ...

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Thanks, Dick She's got all the bells and whistles that come with being a Cape Dory - the bronze hardware, the ash, teak, and holly woodwork, and the 3/16" rigging with six shrouds plus forestay and backstay. We are very fortunate to have her, and she's the flagship of our program. Next up: rest...

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Sailing!!!!

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CD22 # 161 "restoration complete after 2 years. The boat was launched last Saturday. Final touches included refinishing all exterior teak with Honey Teak polyurethane, new sail and tiller covers in Toast Sunbrella, and modifications to the trailer. She sails wonderfully. A little tender at firs...

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Latest progress: Outboard bracket installed, bootstripe applied (2 coats PPG Amercoat Cobalt Blue), bottom painted with 2 coats PPG Medium Blue antifouling. Teak cabin eyebrows installed. Hawkeye digital depth finder installed. All interior woodwork refinished in satin polyurethane. Cabin sole refin...

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RE: Weather helm. I've got an early '70s cat rigged Chrysler Dagger daysailer (a poor man's Laser). It's a blast to sail in a breeze and very quick, but has wicked weather helm, especially when heeled. I attributed it to the sharp bow and flat aft sections and considered adding a small jib to offset...

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Another photo of CD22 # 161 with toe rails, bow pulpit, and lifelines installed and waterline masked off. Cabin eyebrows and outboard bracket will be next, along with Cobalt Blue boot stripe, gold cove stripe, registration numbers and medium blue anti-fouling paint.

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Continuing our restoration of Cape Dory 22 # 161, we scheduled two Saturdays to finish installing deck hardware. The stainless bow pulpit was drilled for the bow light wiring to pass through the port rear rail, and a matching hole drilled in the deck prior to setting with 3M 4000 sealant and stainle...

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Continuing our restoration of Cape Dory 22 # 161, all teak was removed, stripped, sanded, reinstalled, and coated with Penetrol. Penetrol produces a transparent, slightly flat finish that doesn't build up and chip or crack like varnish. Once the teak is saturated and dry, maintenance consists of a p...

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WOW! Beautiful boat! 20 years! Makes my 18 month Cape Dory 22 restoration seem like a walk in the park.

Great Job!

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Non-skid dry and masking tape removed. The surface is glossy but has great traction, wet or dry.

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More photos of a Cape Dory 22 restoration. Masking and painting non-skid deck areas. I masked off the non-skid deck areas using 3M painter's masking tape, which leaves a clean line when peeled, and doesn't harden over several days exposure to the sun. I had some Amercoat 450H polyurethane tinted a s...

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Wow. Beautiful little dutchman. That cabin roof camber (concave to convex) is a work of art.

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He sure did. Never heard of a Goldeneye, but it's a classy looking boat.

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Hmmm. I don't think it's a Typhoon. Bow a little too plumb, coamings and ports don't match. Not sure what it is, but whatever it is, it sure is pretty!

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Here are some photos of our CD 22 being painted. Primer: PPG Amercoat 235H two part epoxy Finish: PPG Amercoat 450H Hatteras Off-White two part Aliphatic Polyurethane. The top photo shows the boat with the hull faired and sanded. The next two are application of the epoxy primer. The next one is of a...

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Still progressing on our Cape Dory 22 restoration. Areas of the deck and cockpit sole have been recored with new balsa, gel coat cracks and gouges have been filled, all Coast Guard required safety equipment has been purchased, and the boat is nearly ready for painting with fiberglass primer, two-par...

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I just recored sections of a Cape Dory 22 deck that were soft, and the advice here is the best I've ever read. I was fortunate to be able to remove and save the top deck skin sections, as the balsa core was pretty much peanut butter. Using a 4" angle grinder with a 1/8" blade, I plunge cut...

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Cape Dory 22's (another Alberg design) have ash ceilings, with satin finish varnish. Very nice and classy.
There's a 15 gallon water tank under the v-berth.

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Unfortunately, I can't mount a foot pump there. There is a fiberglass molding in the locker bottom, almost like a raised floor in the compartment, that the plywood fits against and covers up. I think I'll take your suggestion (shortened jig saw blade) and cut out the offending plywood straight acros...

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Agree with you there. Not much space on the cabin sole, especially bending down to the bottom of the locker. However, I might be able to cut out the bottom of the locker front straight across the bottom of the door opening and splice in a new panel with teak veneer without too much trouble. I'll try...

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I thought about just adding veneer and found a source for small sheets. Unfortunately, the plywood in this area is compromised. It's 3/8" and I can push it in and out of shape with my fingers. Maybe I could use some penetrating epoxy to firm up the laminate, then apply the teak veneer and possi...

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Greetings, I need some advice on replacing/repairing teak plywood in the interior of a 1984 Cape Dory 22. The boat's interior is in good shape except for one spot. I have attached a photo of the interior, with the damaged area visible at the lower left, just above the cabin sole. Apparently, at some...

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I ran into a similar problem on a Cape Dory 22 two weeks ago. The existing bronze cockpit drains are set verically, flush with the floor of the cockpit, but the seacocks and thru-hulls are installed at an angle following the hull's contours and slightly aft of the drain centerlines. What at first se...

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Hayn Marine offers a different setup. (Handy Crimp) Hand crimping using a Nicopress tool. I haven't tried this, but it appears to be a DIY alternative to machine swaging. The vendor claims that the fittings, available in 1/8" and 3/16", develop 70% of 7X7 cable strength when properly insta...

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Dunno, Hirilonde,

I guess so someone can holler "OOPS - you're past the trailer waterline!" when you back that $30,000 truck too far down the ramp. Maybe we'd be better off putting waterlines on our tow vehicles :-)

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This may sound pretty basic, but I'm trying to mark a waterline on a hull (Pearson Ensign). There are plenty of drawings out there for the boat, so I have no problem finding waterline locations at the bow and at the stern, from a profile view. It gets tricky when you get up under that overhanging st...

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Our committee voted unanimously to accept the boat. The comments regarding build quality and sailing performance were very helpful in the decision. Now on to the paperwork, repairs, and bottom painting. 'll install some stops for the hatch slide. I didn't see the hatch boards (they may be stored som...

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Just the kind of feedback I was looking for, pros and cons of the design, handling, and build quality. "Free" boats aren't free, when you consider the "surprises" usually encountered and the cost of repairs and upgrades. We have a donated 1965 Pearson Ensign undergoing a 2 year, ...

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Got a call from the local boatyard a few weeks ago, asking if our youth sailing program was interested in an AMF Paceship PY23. (Forgot to ask what year, but from what I read, PY23's were built from 1973 to 1981)The owner bought a new boat and is considering donating the boat, as opposed to selling ...

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Dark Brown would be great, but I can't find any! Have you picked out a paint yet? I have always used Interlux or EasyPoxy. That is why I was leaning towards Green. Hubby would prefer brown (it was what Cape Dory originally used). Definitely not planning any long cruising... I'm using Ronan Bulletin...

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Our youth sailing program has a CD22 with the red bottom paint and tan non-skid. We are the process of repainting the boat Hatteras Off-White, the non-skid the original Petit sand color, the bottom red, and the bootstripe in chocolate brown. I've attached a picture of our boat (no bootstripe) and a ...

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A few pics of our donated Cape Dory 22. Another Alberg design with classic lines. It came to us complete with trailer, rig sails, and boxes of spares. Repairs needed included: freeing and greasing frozen seacocks, refinishing all exterior teak, repairing, filling, and sanding deck scratches and gel ...

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More pictures of the Ensign including one showing the butchered transom as is. Soon to be remedied, I hope. The rudder and shaft have been removed, as the shaft (post) is too long and would not allow the deck to sit flush on the hull. It will be cut down to fit the deck and cockpit.

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It was carpenters chaulk, that's what they used to thicken epoxy for tabbing. I thought so, as the color didn't show up until I ground through the top coat of resin Scott, before your team starts measuring and installing bulkheads and fixtures , place the deck on even if it's only temporary so the ...

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Here are some more pics of the early days of the '65 Ensign restoration process. Dirty nasty work, but it had to be done to make way for all new mast step supports, bulkheads, and v-berth. The old wood could be pulled out by hand, but the builders used plenty of resin, and it took a 4" angle gr...

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I explored grafting on an original stern section, and if I had one I would. If there were another Ensign in my area, I'd approach the owner about letting me make a female mold off the rear of the hull. I even queried Ensign Spars as to the possibility of having a transom with about 4" of hull c...

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Thanks. The "improved Ensign" version was an attempt aimed at building a deck from scratch in lieu of the missing one. The decision to restore to original came when the factory deck was donated with all the hardware, and I feel it was the right one. I gave up trying to justify this whole p...

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Correct. The original transom was cut off at some point in the past, along with approximately 3-1/2" of the bottom rear of the hull (apparently to accommodate the straight 2x12 treated pine planks). A new transom is currently being mocked up for fabrication and fairing into the hull. The replac...

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Crazer is correct. It's been going on for awhile. I just thought that some folks on the forum might be interested to hear of the ressurection (so to speak) of a 47 year old classic. I'm certainly enjoying the rebuild, and with it's large cockpit, versatile sail plan, foam flotation and lockable cudd...

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