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Jay, I agree it is purely personal preference. I have always like the look of window glass that are recessed. I believe Morris Yacht and Tayana and maybe some other builders have used that approach. Morris Yacht M29 Recessed Windows http://www.morrisyachts.com/files/imagecache/Page_Display/files/pho...

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I have thought about this issue for a long time but have not been able to do anything about it. Now that my engine alignment problem is finally addressed I can focus on this project. As you might know the west coast Tritons have large fixed ports in the main cabin that are mounted on the exterior. I...

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Ok, here is an easy question for this group. Now that I am done fidgetting with the engine alginment (yeah!) I can finally get to redoing my electrical system. Blossom used to have one panel on portside and another original one on starboard side. I am moving everything to the port panel. I need a be...

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Just saw this on Youtube.

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Osprey, I have not done so myself but have watched my friend Rob Heggen done it many times. He overdrills the hole (but does not drill through the liner) and then fills it with thickend epoxy. After it cures he sands it smooth and redrill the hole with the correct size bit. Some times the thicken ep...

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Well, I finally did it today but it was not without a final bit of battle with a stuck valve tappet. On Saturday I put back the final appendages and connected the fuel, cooling, electrical, and control cables. I cranked the engine and it almost caught on right away. But I noticed that engine was run...

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Toxic Pipe... The invoice from McMaster Carr said the tube contained some kind of toxic product known in California to cause cancer. It sure looked like it had a radioactive glow to it! Note drill-hole in top where I injected epoxy. Doug, you cannot walk more than 10 steps in Calfornia without seei...

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Well it did not happen today (i.e. I was not able to put everything back). Due to my kids concert with BYO in the afternoon I only had a few hours in the morning to install starter, alternator, manifold, distributor, and fuel pump back. I also rebuilt the old mechanical fuel pump with Moyer rebuild ...

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Quetzalsailor, I think that is a great idea. I will make a mental note of it when I get to redoing my large fixed ports on the Triton. Jim Baldwin had another idea which is also very practical. He replaced his fixed ports with 1/2" Plexiglass (or could be Lexan) and bolted them down just like t...

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After dropping off my two older kids off at Berkeley Youth Orchestra (where they both play the violins) bright and early this morning I was once again back on the alignment project. Unlike the previous several weeks I could see light at the end of the tunnel now. While waiting for my friend Rob to s...

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Erik,

Beautiful boat! Dolphin 24 is one of those boats I always admired. There is one here in Alameda (Aviva) that I run into from time to time. It's recently hauled out at Svendsens and I got a chance to take a more close-up look. It's as pretty close-up as from a distance.

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Doug, very nice job on the drain tube! Here is an excerpt from Allan Vaitses' "The Fiberglass Boat Repair Manual" on how to repair/strengthen the rudder tube. It's similar to what you are doing with the drain tube.

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Today's task is simple and straight forward, a nice change for once. We mixed up the West System epoxy resin and hardener. First coated the holes drilled yesterday without thickener. Then we mixed up the resin with West System 404 (excellent for bonding especially dissimilar materials, stainless ste...

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Thanks for your encouragement Doug. Last week was pretty disappointing... This week the battle turned in my favor a bit. Firstly, my friend Rob Heggen showed up to help. We started by loading the engine on the mount. To my utter surprise, the height is nearly perfect (after I shaved off the aft stri...

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Zach, you are an inspiration. I cannot wait to see how you put it all together. Before you and Tim cut up your respective cockpits I could not fathom projects like that was possible.

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Something seems a little fishy to me; surely the engine had shims on top of the beds? The original builder would not have made them perfect; he would have made them low and used the toothed iron wedges or washers. I'm surprised that you could have used up all his space with three thicknesses of 'gl...

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My engine alignment attempt is now officially turning into a project of Panama Canal proportion. I arrived at the marina early today and was excited about the prospect of finally able to load the Atomic 4 on the repaired engine stringers. Unfortunately my friend Rob had to work. Not wanting to furth...

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Quetzalsailor, Good point on epoxy not bonding well to metal. I thought of two ways to deal with this issue. 1. Coat the roughed up coupling nuts with JB Weld which bonds well to metal. When JB Weld is cured then bond the coupling nuts (now coated with JB Weld) in the pre-drilled holes with regular ...

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Great idea David. I don't have a lathe but my friend Rob does. I am sure he will be happy to help.

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After going through the different options I decided to use 1/2" internal diameter coupling nuts in lieu of threaded inserts. The advantage is that they offer 1/2" - 13 internal thread size and 1 - 1/8" length. I placed the order today from McMaster Carrs for four stainless steel coupl...

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My problem is that I cannot seem to find any threaded inserts longer than 1". Given that Atomic 4 are bolted directly to the engine stringer (i.e. only four bolts will be holding it down) I would like to use a 3/8" to 1/2" thread size and ideally 2" long threaded inserts. It does...

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Quetzalsailor wrote - A useful pan would collect drippings, or worse, from as many of the potential sources as possible and not preclude clean-up from the others. A useful pan would not receive non-hydrocarbon fluid from elsewhere (ex: water from a deck leak or similar). A useful pan would allow acc...

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Oh my god, Rachel. Is there any knowledge about boats you don't have? Amazing...

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Since the engine is out I decided to take advantage of the nice access to the bilge area to thoroughly clean it out and repaint the engine and engine room. In addition to the usual nuts and bolts I also found a adjustable wrench and a pencil that have been in there since I bought the boat over 10 ye...

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I agree with Case and Dave, only you can answer that question. But Choey Lee Frisco Flyer is a beautiful boat. There are two on my dock. One beautifully restored and covered up when not being used. The other completed dilapidated and ignored. It breaks my heart to see that boat everytime I walk past...

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Quetzalsailor, Thanks very much for your explanation of cut thread vs. rolled thread and the tip on how to cast/bond lag bolts. Now I can see how lag bolts can work in this scenario. The lag bolts that came off the previous installation are very high quality bronze bolts and are in fine shape. I am ...

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Thanks Tim, Earlylight, for your help. Quetzalsailor, one reason I am not confident about using lag bolts is that after bonding it in epoxy I don't know if I will be able to "crank down" on the lags (after the epoxy cured). That is what my friend Rob is concerned that cranking on it will c...

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Quetzalsailor wrote - Your friend's comment about adequacy of epoxy filler is worrisome: I presume you are using some sort of structural filler, not a cousin of Bondo. I hope you're using West's microfiber filler or their high strength filler additive. If using a structural filler you can drill and ...

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Rachael, thanks very much for the tip! Your marine knowledge base is amazing. I have the West System booklets and have read them multiple times but for some reason I don't remember this section. So, I went on their website and did some additional material and come across this West System test result...

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I thought a lot of about the next engine and still have not made up my mind. Believe me when I saw the work you (Doug) did on the Ericson 27 outboard mount it ignited my internal debate again. While we cannot have the outboard hang off the transom itself on Tritons (without a bracket) as the Ericson...

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Today was a productive day - sort of. I had already removed starter, alternator, water pump, exhaust manifold and disconnected fuel and exhaust hoses and electrical wires last week. I started the day by rigging up a make-shift lifting system. I used my main sheet purchase system and moved it to the ...

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Boat projects seem to always involve detours and scope expansion. In order to gain better access to the engine (to adjust the shaft alignment) my friend Rob talked me into re-configuring the two existing round access hatches into one rectangular one similar to what Tim installs on his project boats ...

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Rob - we missed you at Ben Wells' circumnavigation slide show today. I met Michael Ruiz there. Looks like your Whisper is in good hands. Chris wrote - I'm not sure I agree with Ray's advice from the previous post. Although I have seen rigid tubes used as cockpit drains, and even sink drains, which h...

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pjesus wrote: I kinda understand what you're saying but the snowboard on your feet doesn't necessarily make you a hooligan. Of course it does. National statistics show snowboarders are 6.5 times more likely to commit the following crimes: 1. Flattening the mogul fields because they don't know how to...

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Doug, Very nice work on your E27. There are three E27's within three boat lengths of my Triton 106's berth at our marina and more on other docks. I think they are just beautiful. I don't know if you already thought of this but you can strengthen your transom by connecting the single drain under your...

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I have also thought of the following approach: 1. Move the lexan windown from outside the cabin to the inside of the cabin so from the outside the window appears recessed in the cabin coaming. Kind of look like the window in this Morris Yacht from the outside. http://www.morrisyachts.com/files/image...

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Oh my oh my oh my... Drool... I am speechless. Dave, have you thought of making it for other Triton and Renegate owners for sale? I have thought of similiar ideas but I know I don't have the skills to accomplish it. What does the exterior look like? Any pictures of the outside view will be much appr...

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Quetzalsailor, I think you raise a good question as to the necesity of a boom gallow. However, there is another view which you may or may not have considered. In addition to function boom gallow also adds more "salt" to certain type of boat designs. Granted boom gallow does not look right ...

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Doug, Here are some of my thoughts on the questions you are contemplating. Apologize in advance that due to my busy schedule now I don't have the time to dig deep into the supporting material. Of course this brings up a bunch of questions and issues I'll need to consider: Hull backing plate- necessa...

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Rachel,

I can also calculate the gap using trigonometry or for that matter calculas ;-) (I have a degree in electrical engineering which clearly is not useful for much else on the boat other than the electrical system.) But I have no clue how to adjust the mount (well, a slight clue but not much).

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Doug, Great job you are doing on your Ericson restoration! Please post more pictures of the progress. As for the chain plate I will be following this thread closely as I am about to get to that part soon. I am not a big fan of the external chain plate for two reasons. One is esthetically they look g...

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Well, it did not rain here in the beautiful SF Bay Area until late evening around 6PM. So I was able to get to the boat and had another go at the alignment problem. First of all, I went to talk to my friend Rob Heggen and find out how much his Atomic 4 vibrates. We fired up his engine and after warm...

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Thanks Tim so much and sorry I had not responded sooner. I was hoping to get to the boat this weekend and give it another go at the alignment work but the NOAA forecast for the SF Bay Area for the weekend is rain, rain, rain, and more rain... Your point on what to expect during an alignment exercise...

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Thanks Glenn, I have read Nigel Calder's instruction as well. I think you are right it is one of those things that comes with a lot of practice. I have used the feeler gauge on spark plugs and engine points before but they do not require .003 inch accuracy and you can do it standing or sitting down ...

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After some additional web search I came across the following method for measuring the gap between the two halves of the coupling. It is posted on the Moyer Marine Community (Atomic 4) Forum: Here is what I did. With the bolts all free and the shaft uncoupled I held three small pieces of paper betwee...

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After following the advices several of you posted I successfully uncoupled the shaft and engine coupling. I let the BP Blaster soak the joint for a while and took out the three locking bolts. After prying the joint with the tape knife I was able to get the couple to rotate independently and then bac...

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Well, I am definitely not as handy as one of Rob's well trained monkeys. I finally got around to work on the alignment issue today. After soaking the three bolts locking the two halves of the couplings together with BP Blast they came loose with relative ease. I did not take them off completely and ...

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Over the Christmas holiday I took my family up to the Sierra mountains (Lake Tahoe) for a ski vacation which has become our holiday tradition. Coming down a particular challenging run I could not help noticing the parallel between sailing and skiing. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2713/4224936180_e4...

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Tim, thank you for a very thoughtful response (as usual). Bilge is indeed a great place for the batteries. When I spoke with Ray Alsup about the built in water tank in the west coast Tritons he had actually already converted his into a battery storage locaiton. As you know I am also thinking of usin...

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Rob, That's the best monkey training advice I ever received to be sure. I also think we need to get you a BOAT pronto lest your talent and energy go unused. Of course anytime you want to apply your talent and energy to a local Triton in need feel free to give me a call. I know of a particular Triton...

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