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Hirilondë

I mean, whether the curtain effect was actually officially less "fine" because it was made up of stripes of veneer .......... If by officially you mean the manufacturer's intentions for the better side, then yes. (the upper edge of the curtain "smiles" are veneer repeats of some...

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That looks fantastic, Tom. I don't know the correct terminology, but the "swags" in the veneer are pretty. They almost look like theatre curtains. Very often cabinet grade plywoods come with 2 different sides. The "A" side is made of one continuous piece of veneer and the "...

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This is what I found searching for the sail plan of a Bristol 27. I am not so sure I would want to change the dimensions of the main all that much from the design. The last modification I would make would be to raise the boom. I reef a lot on my Renegade, and find the boat very balanced doing so. B...

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To clarify . . . the box tubing was NOT anodised in the first place and, I did say: " I shall have both pieces anodized at the local plating shop". I know you did, that is exactly why I made the comment, to elaborate on the subject. It wasn't directed at you at all, but to comment on Bran...

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Anodized material when cut, drilled or sanded leaves a new surface that is not anodized. I don't see this as an option at any price. Making the pieces (cutting, sanding, drilling screw holes, whatever) then having them anodized is certainly a viable route, but is is really much cheaper than bronze o...

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Rachel wrote:I had this idea that traditionally it was a copper coin, which might make sense with a wooden spar (against rot).

I don't have any real knowledge on what the tradition is, but if rot is a concern, I don't think anything is more resistant to oxidation than gold for metals coins are made of.

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According to all good info Renegade 51 (Hirilondë as per the builders plate) had to have been built in 1967. The registration that came with the boat said 1968. It was a lot easier to get my RI title by just going with the documentation I had instead of trying to prove otherwise. It might have been ...

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I rolled and tipped the primer/high build coats on my boat, a Renegade that I painted completely. I did 4 coats of primer in one non-stop marathon day (app 16-18 hours) with no sanding between coats. Then sanded the entire boat in a marathon day the next day. It was the most brutal weekend of boat w...

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Triton106 wrote: Does anyone have a tip on how to trim back 1/8" stainless steel sheets?

Belt sander

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Paulus wrote:Now all I have to do is..........

Famous last words ;>)

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The previous owner of my boat painted all of the teak-veneered bulkheads and it's beginning to peel in some spots revealing a beautiful surface. I will bet that if you do succeed in removing the paint you will find the not so beautiful surface areas that prompted him/her to paint them. But if you w...

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I don't have any experience with the marine GPS for a phone, but I did play with the auto GPS for a free month. I dropped the service (auto version) because I had no real use for it, but it was fun to try out. I would not be surprised if a marine version works fairly well, or at least soon will when...

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Triton106 wrote: With that modification it actually rows really well.

Umm, errr, welll, maybe it rows better, but no inflatable rows really well. ;>)

I agree with you about the quiet, but you need a hard boat to row well, and even then, just being hard alone doesn't mean it rows well.

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Hence the question; How close is close admitting that no hull is symmetrical and therefore the waterline is not just a mathematical equation. 42 Actually, the designer probably did calculate the water line using math. In addition, the waterline may very well change depending on the design of the in...

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2 techniques that help considerably for toe rails are as follows: 1. Prevarnish the bottom and sides of the toe rail before installation. Do at least 2 coats. You can do the top as well, but not critical to do so. This gets rid of the mechanical seam where varnish meets bedding that moisture gets th...

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Triton106 wrote: I actually enjoy rowing the old Zodiac than motoring with the new one - go figure.

You're a sick man :>)

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The only time I use epoxy as waterproofing is for plywood. The best example is when I build a plywood boat like my dinghy. I see nothing to gain in using epoxy as a "primer" for varnish. And like several have said, it creates more work when it does fail.

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The vanity in me requires that everything I do on my boat has to look "right". By right, I mean to me, and includes all my quirks. I can only accept a soft dodger. I have concluded that the reasoning is that it represents removable. The fact that I never remove mine, except in storage, is ...

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Rachel is ever tactful and Tim gets right to the point. I will just say that I agree, it is a bad idea IMO.

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Why use MEK? Because it's listed by the manufacturer as a thinner, as is acetone. The manufacturer does very little to warn you about the dangers of the isocyanates, it doesn't surprise me it recommends MEK as a thinner. I think Acetone is much safer. MEK is a mutagen and Acetone is almost drinkabl...

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I did lay out the patterns on the mahogany cut the wood then scarf. Is this what you meant by your quote above? I think so. By using the boards to follow the curve before cutting/shaping them to the exact curve you save on a lot of the potential waste. So I'm onto what needs to be done and I think ...

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miltonb wrote: I found it a little weird to apply until I thinned it about 10% with MEK.

What a deadly combination of materials. I finish that contains isocyanates thinned with MEK. Don't do it any where near me please.

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Last year I spiled on my rub rail by scarfing together 3, - 10’ - 8” boards then laying out my pattern on the board and cutting 2 pieces, for each side, with my jig saw. This used a lot of excess material due to curve of the deck. It sure would. I think I would have scarfed the pieces together on a...

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What Tim said.

You can not petrify wood and have it look good. Someday they may invent a synthetic that looks good and last a really long time. Someday they (the proverbial they) may do a lot of things. For now good old varnish is still the best result for the effort IMO.

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I understand that the Okume only gets its BS 1088 by virtue of wood preservative. No, there are many things that make up the standard, and the choice of wood isn't even one. It has to do with laminate thikness (hence the number of laminations per given thickness), having no voids in laminations, gl...

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Maybe this comment belongs in the Technical Data and Nerdery , section but for the record Okoume, aka Gaboon is not really a Mahogany. Like Cambara, Meranti, Luan and a host of other woods, even though marketed as a Mahogany, it really is not. Okoume is very strong and light weight, which is why the...

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Mystic Stainless does very nice work with bronze. Welding, shaping, fabricating and machining are all done. Charlie isn't cheap, but does great work.

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You 2 are certainly getting your money's worth this year. Good luck finishing the chores so you can go back to cruising.

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That said, being a stickler on simmetry, .. Why? When I see yours, all I can think of is that one side will "see" more material than the other... Who cares? (besides you) Spending more time playing with the shape, when it does nothing to enhance the work being done is pointless. Better to...

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The fact that it is for the wealthy only has never bothered me. Even campaigning a Mini 6.5 is expensive by my standards. I just don't like that it has become a game of the courts, fights over silly designs, a promo for big business and down right silliness. I think they should go back to J Boats wi...

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Was this perhaps a custom made potable water tank, then replumbed as a holding tank? This would be my guess. I strongly suggest pulling the tank and going plastic. Not only are the repairs tedious and in the end futile, but a leaky holding tank is more than annoying, it is just plain unacceptable.

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1) Pete and Wendy Stamm of Stonington Marine Transport , http://www.stoningtonmarine.com These folks are based in Connecticut, and will haul from/to the Chesapeake area (they work the whole US Atlantic Coast). Pete drives; Wendy runs the office. Great communication; both in office and from the road...

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A difference of a couple feet in that range is huge. I would not put even the Typhoon and the Ensign in the same class, never mind the CD 25. Not only do larger boats cost more (priced plus upgrades as the case may be) but the maintenance and in water storage range is large. How much is size worth t...

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I wear Rhodes colored glasses all the time ;>)

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Not an expert in marine electgrical, but my gut instinct would be that the only possible problem to using a wood panel would be if it got wet and provided a potential source of path to ground for the hot leads.. Wood is an excellent insulator. If it is getting wet then the water is the problem, not...

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........................ but it will be a few years 'till she's finished. Even if you don't count maintenance, you will find that you will never stop modifying/upgrading/rearranging stuff about your boat. And those of us who do it ourselves have this disease worse than anyone. The first step toward...

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The biggest advantage to a centerboard on a full keel boat is the draft. The boat can be designed with a shallower keel that utilizes a board to make up for the loss of lateral surface. I don't think the Swiftsure is any more maneuverable because of it. It would be slightly faster off the wind and d...

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It doesn't necessarily resolve the issue completely, but using a tarp that goes past the waterline makes a huge difference. There is a rubbing on the bottom paint, but that just saves you some sanding in the spring ;>)

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Welcome John. You will certainly find a wealth of info here, both general and Triton specific. My Renegade ice box is exactly where you mention, and I love the location. But a Renegade is a more full body hull and it is therefore very large. I am willing to compromise a lot of things, but when cruis...

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Maybe I am missing something, and this is quite possible, but where are you going in an inflatable that a GPS is necessary?

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Welcome.

Poda wrote: But as skipper says, pictures! The tithe for help is lots and lots of pictures! ;)

Yup, and prepayment is required. No asking questions until at least a dozen good shots have been posted ;>)

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I will start by saying that your "boat sticks" Paulus, are the refinement of the chisel I used on my boat bottom the first winter of work. I found pushing much more back friendly, less tiring and more efficient than pulling normal scrapers. Good stuff! Have you arrived at an opinion about ...

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Rags forced into the opening can stop, or at least significantly slow water coming in. Probably the best thing is knowing where all of your thru-hulls are, and having a plan which includes the implements needed. Figuring it all out while you are sinking is probably too late. As an emergency measure,...

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I wouldn't be paranoid about it, but having DC Plugs handy is never a bad idea. Offshore races often require them to be tethered and ready at the site of every thru-hull. I would at least consider having all the needed sizes in some central, easy to access location. You can buy them, like these: DC ...

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Just to complicate things I will present another issue in setting up a new batter system. If you expect to charge all of your batteries from the same source, usually the engine alternator for most of us, then proximity to each other is a concern regarding the batteries. Should the wire leads from th...

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They aren't gas tight so that might concern some. I don't think I have ever seen a gas tight battery box. Current boxes are works of art. 3/4 marine ply all screwed and glassed together and look like art....really want to try to NOT have to rip those out. I don't blame you. Well constructed/install...

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Hey Charlie. Good to hear from you here and the B&B site. Hopefully your distractions aren't too serious and you can get back to your cruise as planned. I missed the get-together at Graham's and Carla's this fall though I did get to see Graham in Mystic this summer. I hear that I missed seeing T...

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1. Quite possible 2. You can carefully sand through the layers and try to ID them as you go. I am not sure how successful you will be, not sure how successful anyone would be either really. If the hard layers you speak of are sound and your new bottom paint adheres well to it, I am not sure it is im...

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End grain blocks absorb more resin during lamination and produce a better bond between skins and core. As far as water getting in and traveling due to capillary action or what ever I don't really think it matters. Once water gets to the core you have a problem regardless of orientation of the grain....

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The rudder post, buy the way, turns out to be a solid piece of bronze - a good match with the solid bronze steering gear... This is typical of wooden boats and the early plastic boats that used traditional rudders. When it comes time to rebuild, and hopefully that is a ways off, I would suggest new...

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