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Bluenose

Peter, You always seem to have the perfect picture no matter what the topic of discussion. They either needed a cockpit cover or maybe a pair of your drying legs. There would also be a measure of neglect in order for a boat to sink due to rain. You would have to leave it for some time in quite a sto...

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Reading the post about Triton cockpit drains caused me to think about Bolero's non self draining cockpit. This topic was a big concern for me when this project started. I just couldn't wrap my mind around not having cockpit drains. As it turned out I hardly noticed not having them. In some ways I th...

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you may want to try fixing a layer of thin plastic to the inside of the shed this not only diverts the drip of the condensation away from the boat but helps insulate slightly and keeps the condensation from forming as readily. you may also want to cover the ground with a large tarp and then bringin...

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Thanks for asking Rachel. I wondered about this as well.

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There is room for everybody out there on the water. Except maybe PWC's. They are pure evil... Britton, Of course you are right. I just love beautiful sailboats and all the compromising and rationalization just leads to more and more ugly boats. I just don't get how we are drawn into sailing by gorg...

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Tell ya what, call me a snob, but putting a monstrous dodger on a pretty catboat is a little more than halfway to Bad-motorsailer-conversion-ville anyway. Then again, a splinter snob would probably say the same thing about a plastic catboat. To each his own, I guess. More than halfway? Ten minutes ...

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Stephen, The retractable bowsprit is one of those things I wanted to want even though I don't need it. I just love the idea of the asym and the bowsprit, and a furler if you really want to ding the checking account. In the end Bolero has been quite nice in light air and I haven't even hoisted a spin...

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Albergs designed sailplan for the Triton - he knew his business very well. That is not to say that different rigs would not work and obviously there have been many rig changes performed on Tritons that have worked just fine. My personal issues with this are not so much with the abillity of the boat...

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What a lovely thread rebirth to see after returning from a long Holiday trip. I think the biggest problem with seeing images like this: http://images.craigslist.org/1f71271473kf3o83pd8c8f91d6166de371c77.jpg Is that some bad ideas get better by comparison. I can still remember the image burned into m...

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I returned from a three week trip to some good shed related news. First, in addition to a huge, for us, snow storm we had some impressive wind storms. The shed handled the snow and wind, gusting to 70 kts, with ease. Unfortunately at least two boats broke their moorings in Fisherman bay. One ended u...

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Thanks. You would be looking for quite a shed to house your Morgan with room to work. Bolero's paint is Alexseal Flag Blue two part that Tim applied. Would look quite stunning on your Morgan. But hey I am quite prejudice. I found out that the colour on this Morgan (that is the same boat as my 45) h...

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The thread hijacking police will be breaking down the door any minute. But I tried pacing that beauty in my old 24 ft Bluenose Sloop between Griffin Bay and the entrance to Fishbay. Lost that one but kept it close for a while. Maybe I will get a chance again in Bolero. It will still be a bit of a mi...

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Looks like she has hit the wooden boat forum! The responses are all positive...which is rare over there when you are dealing with "frozen snot". http://www.woodenboat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89069 I LOVE frozen snot plastic classics!!! Especially Bolero!!! Ric, Thanks for posting the l...

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The Columbia Sabre http://lh4.ggpht.com/_rqLNS-z1IIU/RvUqvvZsvgI/AAAAAAAAAkw/xR7B4DBqCyg/s800/Columbia%20Sabre%20-%20A.jpg and the Ericson Scorpion http://lh5.ggpht.com/_rqLNS-z1IIU/RvUuz_ZsvmI/AAAAAAAAAlg/HRDYGMu7v1M/s800/Ericson%20Scorpion%20-%20A.jpg were very early candidates for the project tha...

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I have been happily enjoying the new boat shed with one exception. The dreaded condensation issue. I knew going in that this was a concern with fabric type buildings so I tried to do as much as I could to alleviate the issue. But so far no go. Here are some recent pictures of what is going on. http:...

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There was a pretty positive review of the "modern" Soverel 30 in Practical Sailor a ways back. This boat was big time on my list as a possible upgrade from my old Bluenose Sloop since they were available without inboard engines and they carried a ton of sail. Something like 460 square feet...

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I was intrigued by Soverel 30 for a while but never realized that there were two distinct versions. Here is a breakdown of the 30's from the Soverel 33 site. http://lh3.ggpht.com/_rqLNS-z1IIU/STDaGor0GmI/AAAAAAAAJPk/C-SOIPovpdY/s800/Soverel%2030.jpg This looks like the older version, a 74 mark III, ...

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Funny you should say that - she was designed before Roz - and by the older brother.... :-) One embraced glass - the other called it frozen snot.... http://www.dmcboats.com/takingshape.htm Thanks for the link. I guess I would have to agree with both of Herreshoff boys on this one. I quite enjoyed re...

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Wow! Pretty darn sweet. I for one would like some more info on this beauty. What is she? Who is the designer? She looks a bit like an over grown Rozinante.

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Good point. I don't have another possible spot, so a substantial vapour barrier it is. And vents up high for warmer weather, I suppose. I also have a spare wood stove I could put in - but then the building starts to look much less temporary. Although if I'm already putting in a solid gable end at t...

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The trouble with putting a clearspan cover on a stimson shed (as I see it) is that it wouldn't be shaped correctly for the shed - and even if it is just a flat piece with no corners built in, the shed would have to be exactly the right size for it to be able to be tightened on. And the shrink-wrap ...

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My past experience with plastic tarps has not been good - they've always beaten themselves to death in less than a single winter - and often done damage to the boat in the process (the flailing grommets scratch things). I"ve only used shrink-wrap plastic once (last year), but it worked much be...

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I think you are right thinking about anchoring solutions and I don't know what the recommendations are for anchoring Stimson sheds. Clearspan's anchoring setup looks like this: http://www.farmtek.com/wcsstore/EngineeringServices/allbizunits/prodimages/full/105587.jpg With typical screw in anchors li...

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I've investigated clearspan and other shelters, and it seems I could have one delivered to me from a Canadian company for $4200. It would be a metal-framed structure with frames on 4' centers, covered in an 18 mil (9 oz) tarp. They claim it would take me 4-5 hours to erect (with two friends), and t...

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There is a small part of me that questions my decision to go the Clearspan shed route. I can't quite put my finger on it. Maybe it is the cost. Or the not so temporary nature of these temporary sheds. But having covered storage for a boat rocks. Last night another gale worked its way through the San...

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Pyxis made it home today. I think I am going to go with a modified Stimson shed as I need to work on the bottom. I can now take better measurements to figure the optimal size. Thanks for all of the suggestions. Right now I'm just grateful that the trip home on the trailer was uneventful! Bly I hope...

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Nice shelter...wish I had one. Ok - I have to ask. What is the stunning colour and type of paint on Bolero's hull? I am looking for a colour to paint my Morgan http://www.plasticclassicforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=3232 Thanks. You would be looking for quite a shed to house your Morgan with room to wor...

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Even though I don't have any experience with them, I would second Britton's Stimson shed suggestion. If the Clearspan has been vetoed I personally wouldn't look for a cheaper version of the same thing. From my research it seems like these fabric building cost x amount per year. Go cheaper and they j...

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I finished up my Clearspan shelter and I have to say that I am glad to have this project behind me. http://lh5.ggpht.com/_rqLNS-z1IIU/SRfJIKjBJ6I/AAAAAAAAJII/KO1bZhTlQm0/s800/Boat%20Shed%20Construction%20-%202008-11-09%20-%200013_1024.jpg Although there was great satisfaction in cleaning Bolero up a...

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If this works, it might be a neat work-around. I wrote it up in Word, dragged pictures in, converted to .pdfs, converted the .pdf to .jpg and uploaded the three pages to Photobucket, then copied the code above. Your post viewed great. The only downside to this method is that the text isn't searchab...

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You've probably done this already, but it can be fun and instructive to go to Yachtworld or wherever and do a search for unspecified boats in a certain size range that suits your needs and desires--with no other criteria entered. Certainly this can bring up huge numbers of boats, but if you have a ...

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Yes I suppose a person could argue that it's not that practical. Perhaps, but I really like the idea that sailboats should be measured base on their displacement as much or more than their length. If you were considering, say a Pearson Invicta at 38 ft and 19,000 lbs displacement, that might seem m...

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With the weather cooperating, kind of, I have made a bit of progress on my Clearspan boat shelter. More info on my blog. http://knockaboutsloops.blogspot.com/2008/11/boat-shed-construction-part-4-5-6.html http://lh5.ggpht.com/_rqLNS-z1IIU/SRJPzFcq3JI/AAAAAAAAJFE/9rxrQEPlOjU/s800/Boat%20Shed%20Constr...

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I just love that photo of your Swede under her spinnaker. Talk about a sweet looking boat that just longs to be sailed. I also like the white sail cloth with the colored stripes on the luff and leech. So what effective wind angles do you get with it? I think an asym is in my future.

Cheers, Bill

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The following is my current and constantly changing list of winter maintenance tasks for Bolero as of 21 October 2008. It is mostly fine tuning and upgrades but I want to try and start good habits. Winterizing & Storage * Finish boat shed (underway) * Remove everything from Bolero and fresh wate...

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Wow! Just stunning. What a lovely sailing craft. 8.5 knots just ain't too shabby in lightish air. What is your hull speed on those gorgeous needle? Also, how are you rigging your sheets for your spinnaker? I don't quite understand the eye splice on the lazy sheet. http://www.morebutter.com/swede/nov...

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Well I certainly agree that your new boat has big shoes to fill. Your Northeast 38 is a beauty.

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Small , affordable bluewater? Safe, seaworthy, strong, quick, comfortable, small (under 10,000 lbs.), beautiful , standing headroom (I'm 5'10" or so), rudder well aft, fiberglass or cold molded, dodger and bimini possible, diesel, decent galley, enclosed head, and of course inexpensive (< $20K...

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A bit small in the LOD, but I thought I'd throw it into the mix just as a fun direction: Stone Horse. I also think that the Stonehorse is a fun and interesting direction. I have always thought that there is a lot to like about the Stonehorse. They throw up a really nice amount of sail area in a ver...

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I can't exactly explain why but I am really enjoying this thread.

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There's a masthead-rigged Triton in one of your photos there. http://www.lackeysailing.com/utility/watriton.jpg Tim, Good eye. That Triton has been there for the 4 or 5 years that I have been sailing out of Fishermans Bay. I have talked to the owner a number of times. He lives off Island, Conway I ...

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I keep saying that I am done gushing about Bolero and posting every picture that I get of her but apparently not. http://lh5.ggpht.com/wre1962/SPwbh2PZliI/AAAAAAAAI_g/DKh8r9fq-h4/s800/Dicks%20Bolero%20Photos%20-%2010-18%20-%2001.JPG http://lh6.ggpht.com/wre1962/SPwbjqirBsI/AAAAAAAAI_o/fXPXTfYipFs/s8...

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Enticed by John's Clearspan tension building that he uses for his Alberg 30, I decided to follow suite with a similar project to house Bolero during the winter. http://roundthecorner.com/photos/hauled.jpg I picked a slightly smaller and a bit of a different shape for cost and aesthetic reasons (I di...

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What a beautiful boat. http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v256/110/7/727989908/n727989908_456475_1162.jpg And I have to say how in awe I am of the people on this board who have the skills to handle boats of this size. Just thinking about the 25,000 pounds of displacement and the close to...

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Somehow I missed this thread. It seems a before and after photo is appropriate.

Before

After

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Kristian, Thanks for the update on this winters projects. Wow, after all that work you have it in you to dive in some more. It will be fun to follow you rig experimentation. It should all be worth it as you prep for the nationals. It will be fun to have a "local" to route on. I will of cou...

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A few more photos of Bolero under sail since I know this group love their pictures. Also actual pictures of our two part jib sheets. My buddy Craig and I had a great fall sail in 5 to 10 kts of wind. Okay it wasn't 5 kts when we left but if came up a bit. http://lh5.ggpht.com/wre1962/SPFjnqn57zI/AAA...

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Clint, Sounds great. I understand that everyone's requirements are varied and that mine are certainly outside the norm. But I thought I would pass along my ideas in any case. I can pass along one other experience. My good friend Craig has a Cape Dory Typhoon. We launched it this Spring off his trail...

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Clint, I stumbled on this review of the Sailmaster 22 by Jack Hornor while I was trying to find what the Sailmaster looked like. I thought I would pass it along in case you hadn't seen it. Bill Sailmaster 22 Reviewed By: Jack Hornor In the August 2002 issue The origins of the Sailmaster 22 are Europ...

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-sailing performance must be excellent Clint, My favorite limited coastal cruiser would have to be the Sparkman & Stephens designed Dolphin (actually a Bill Shaw design) built my O'Day, Yankee and Pacific. They can be a bit hard to find, but they are a performance MORC (Midget Ocean Race Club) ...

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