Stonington to Boothbay

Figment · Post by **Figment** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:01 am

I've been waiting for a good excuse to get the boat up to Maine for a while.

Stonington to Boothbay Race NOR

That could be an interesting few days.

catamount · Post by **catamount** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 1:26 pm

Is this a crew call???

Figment · Post by **Figment** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:12 am

Not just yet.

I need to think about what it would take to prep the boat.
I need to determine how a few of the balls that I currently have up in the air will land if I take off for a week at the end of July.

It's more of a "boat call". If we get enough Tritons on the line SHYC might give us our own start! :)

Hirilondë · Post by **Hirilondë** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:47 pm

The Corinthians Association wrote:The race will be a US Sailing sanctioned Category 2 event,.......

Does a properly equipped Triton meet the requirements?

I would love to do that race, getting to the starting line would be easy for me.

Tim Mertinooke · Post by **Tim Mertinooke** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:41 pm

We are cruising Maine for a month this summer and should be in that area around then. It would be fun if a few boats from this forum were to rendezvous.

catamount · Post by **catamount** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:06 pm

Hirilondë wrote:
The Corinthians Association wrote:The race will be a US Sailing sanctioned Category 2 event,.......
Does a properly equipped Triton meet the requirements?

Main issue would likely be the cockpit? I don't have a Triton, anyone want to measure theirs and see?

ISAF Offshore Special Regulations wrote: 3.09.4 A cockpit sole shall be at least 2% LWL above LWL

3.09.7 Cockpit Volume
i) earliest of age or series date before April 1992
the total volume of all cockpits below lowest coamings shall not exceed
9% (LWL x maximum beam x freeboard abreast the cockpit).

Then you've got to worry about your pulpits and lifelines, and the plumbing of your bilge pumps, etc, etc.... but the cockpit is probably the first structural thing to check on.

Go here for the ISAF Offshore Special Regulations

PS, my boat GREYHAWK (not a Triton, though) will be based in Boothbay this summer, so anyone coming to the area do let me know and we can see about getting together. FWIW, I haven't completely ruled the Stonington-Boothbay "Lobster Run" out yet, although it is competing with the Marblehead-Rockland "Downeast Challenge" and the Southport Yacht Club's Seguin Island Trophy Race Series....

Post by **Tim** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:07 am

catamount wrote:
ISAF Offshore Special Regulations wrote: 3.09.4 A cockpit sole shall be at least 2% LWL above LWL

3.09.7 Cockpit Volume
i) earliest of age or series date before April 1992
the total volume of all cockpits below lowest coamings shall not exceed
9% (LWL x maximum beam x freeboard abreast the cockpit).

Some VERY rough calculations based on the above:

For rule 3.09.4, I calculate 2% LWL (20.5') to be 0.41". Even in my overloaded and heavy Triton, the cockpit sole is probably 3X this above DWL, so on lighter boats it'd be even better. No problem there.

For rule 3.09.7, I roughly calculated cockpit volume to be 40.81 cubic feet. I did not account for the trapezoidal shape of the cockpit well and seating areas (so my rough calculation is based on rectangles incorporating the largest measurements), and used 7" as the height of "lowest coaming" (which on the subject boat is the height of the low molded coaming at the aft end of the cockpit, which is lower than the wooden side coamings).

Using the formula above, I plugged in the following values:

[20.5 (LWL) x 8.25 (Beam) x 2.5 (freeboard)] x 9% = 38.06

The actual cockpit volume is likely something under the 40 cubic feet I calculated, and might end up meeting the Cat 2 requirements. I'm sure the volume of the actual trapezoidal shapes is noticeably less than a rectangle. Obviously this exact measurement would be key, however, as there's not a lot of room for leeway.

catamount · Post by **catamount** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:51 am

Tim wrote:For rule 3.09.4, I calculate 2% LWL (20.5') to be 0.41". Even in my overloaded and heavy Triton, the cockpit sole is probably 3X this above DWL, so on lighter boats it'd be even better. No problem there.

Tim, that should be 0.41 feet not inches; 20.5' = 246 inches, 2% of that is 4.92 inches.

Post by **Tim** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:56 am

catamount wrote:
Tim wrote:For rule 3.09.4, I calculate 2% LWL (20.5') to be 0.41". Even in my overloaded and heavy Triton, the cockpit sole is probably 3X this above DWL, so on lighter boats it'd be even better. No problem there.
Tim, that should be 0.41 feet not inches; 20.5' = 246 inches, 2% of that is 4.92 inches.

That's why I'm not an engineer. Duh.

5" is a tough one.

Figment · Post by **Figment** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:49 am

5"? I could trim the boat bow-heavy and make it happen of course, but that really flies in the face of the spirit of the rule. 5" is a dealbreaker.

catamount · Post by **catamount** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 1:24 pm

Looks like the official NOR with details has just recently been posted --
http://www.stoningtontoboothbayharbor.com/race__nor

32' LOA or greater, so Tritons are definitely out. Sorry!

Zach · Post by **Zach** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:28 pm

Tritons need bow sprits and boomkins anyway right? (Grin)

LOA vs Length on deck... though that might take some loose interpretation's of the rules to pull off.