Sadly, Pyxis our CD25D is destined to be on the hard on her trailer in our yard for the foreseeable future (aka 2+ years). The drought has taken its toll on our lake and the level is down 22' and is due to continue going down 1' a week. They have to stop letting water downstream when it gets down 35'. The marina has hired a crane to get boats out while they still can. All ramps are closed. We can not go back in until the water level comes back up to at least only 10' down and they have repaired all of the docks.
That said, I am trying to find the best way to cover the boat while she sits. I want to have access to the boat and at least stooping deck room so I can at least work on some projects -- or just sit in the cockpit and imagine.
I was in favor of a structure like the Clearspan buildings, but I have been vetoed. I also wanted to build a stick built boat shed/garage/shop, but that was vetoed too. Any suggestions for a cover that would allow good access would be appreciated. We don't have a snow load issue to deal with.
My priority is to not let the boat deteriorate and have access for work. His priority is budget.
Economical long term cover/shelter suggestions needed
Here's a pretty workable layout:
http://www.pearsonariel.org/discussion/ ... 30&page=10
On that the mast is up and the boom is apparently used as partial support, but could be replaced with a regular ridgepole.
I built a similar structure a while ago, but widened it and extended the legs to the ground so I could do hull work in the snow.
If you don't have snow to worry about, and your plan is to do hull work, you could just widen it, and have removable side skirts in case of rain.
PVC as used in the pics is good in warmer weather, but realy gets brittle in the cold. I built mine out of 2x stock, over engineered actually as I had the top curved so laminated the beams to make it attractive. (when torn down a friend used them for a patio cover) A simple gambrel roof design using 2x4 as trusses would be plenty strong with rain being the only concern, that way you could secure some easily removeable skirts in case of bad weather while you're working on it.
Best would be to tie the trusses together at ridge and corners with 2x4 from below, then make rafters of 2x2 or even PVC on the ties so you don't have puddles forming. (troughs running from ridge to eave so they dum at the eaves instead of truss to truss just holding water)
Ken.
http://www.pearsonariel.org/discussion/ ... 30&page=10
On that the mast is up and the boom is apparently used as partial support, but could be replaced with a regular ridgepole.
I built a similar structure a while ago, but widened it and extended the legs to the ground so I could do hull work in the snow.
If you don't have snow to worry about, and your plan is to do hull work, you could just widen it, and have removable side skirts in case of rain.
PVC as used in the pics is good in warmer weather, but realy gets brittle in the cold. I built mine out of 2x stock, over engineered actually as I had the top curved so laminated the beams to make it attractive. (when torn down a friend used them for a patio cover) A simple gambrel roof design using 2x4 as trusses would be plenty strong with rain being the only concern, that way you could secure some easily removeable skirts in case of bad weather while you're working on it.
Best would be to tie the trusses together at ridge and corners with 2x4 from below, then make rafters of 2x2 or even PVC on the ties so you don't have puddles forming. (troughs running from ridge to eave so they dum at the eaves instead of truss to truss just holding water)
Ken.
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Stimson shed. They can be built cheap and they hold up well. I doubt if something better could be built cheaper.
Hopefully, Mike or Peter will chime in with thoughts about theirs.
I think total cost is $400-500.
http://www.by-the-sea.com/stimsonmarine/bowroof.html
If any self supporting structure is out of the question then I have been doing variations of this for a few years.
A ridgepole, strapping along the stanchions, and short pieces between. Cover with a tarp and work away.
Total cost $100-$200 (tarp and strapping)
Hopefully, Mike or Peter will chime in with thoughts about theirs.
I think total cost is $400-500.
http://www.by-the-sea.com/stimsonmarine/bowroof.html
If any self supporting structure is out of the question then I have been doing variations of this for a few years.
A ridgepole, strapping along the stanchions, and short pieces between. Cover with a tarp and work away.
Total cost $100-$200 (tarp and strapping)
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Under cover
I'll second the PVC pipe suggestion. That's all I use for Ariel's frame during Michigan winters, and the cover has held up well. If you want more clearance under the cover, using long lengths of PVC pipe bent over the ridgepole and secured to stanchions can create a covered wagon-type shelter. That was our method of covering Ariel for at least two winters, when we were also using tarps, and it worked well.
Here's an idea of what our frame looked like last winter (this winter I've gone with a steeper slope to shed snow):
David
Here's an idea of what our frame looked like last winter (this winter I've gone with a steeper slope to shed snow):
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Even though I don't have any experience with them, I would second Britton's Stimson shed suggestion. If the Clearspan has been vetoed I personally wouldn't look for a cheaper version of the same thing. From my research it seems like these fabric building cost x amount per year. Go cheaper and they just don't last.I also think that the Stimsons are far more aesthetically pleasing.
I am already so spoiled it is hard for me to imagine working under the pvc and tarp solution. I would definitely build an inexpensive Stimson.
Bummer about the lake. I hope things turn around quickly and you can be back in the water.
Cheers, Bill
I am already so spoiled it is hard for me to imagine working under the pvc and tarp solution. I would definitely build an inexpensive Stimson.
Bummer about the lake. I hope things turn around quickly and you can be back in the water.
Cheers, Bill
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She's home --
Pyxis made it home today. I think I am going to go with a modified Stimson shed as I need to work on the bottom. I can now take better measurements to figure the optimal size.
Thanks for all of the suggestions. Right now I'm just grateful that the trip home on the trailer was uneventful!
Bly
Thanks for all of the suggestions. Right now I'm just grateful that the trip home on the trailer was uneventful!
Bly
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I haven't had the boat in the shed for a few years, it now houses a 1975 Diamond Reo single axle cabover. That's another story.
The 6mil clear plastic used to enclose the ends is in tatters, so it's a bit of a wind tunnel, but the shrinkwrap roof is still holding up, no leaks. The structure itself is absolutely fine.
Could I build it today for $500? I dunno. I can't recall what I spent the first time around, but somehow I suspect that it would be closer to $1200 if it were to be Done Right.
The 6mil clear plastic used to enclose the ends is in tatters, so it's a bit of a wind tunnel, but the shrinkwrap roof is still holding up, no leaks. The structure itself is absolutely fine.
Could I build it today for $500? I dunno. I can't recall what I spent the first time around, but somehow I suspect that it would be closer to $1200 if it were to be Done Right.
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Pricing
Figment,
I think you're right on the cost. I kept reading $400-500 online, but when I started pricing lumber from HD & Lowes (or only options) last night -- $1000+ is looking far more plausible.
I'm going to get a price on one of the aluminum roofed RV car ports. In our area, there is far more of a resale market.
It was nice to see her out the window on my way to coffee this morning though.
Thanks,
Bly
I think you're right on the cost. I kept reading $400-500 online, but when I started pricing lumber from HD & Lowes (or only options) last night -- $1000+ is looking far more plausible.
I'm going to get a price on one of the aluminum roofed RV car ports. In our area, there is far more of a resale market.
It was nice to see her out the window on my way to coffee this morning though.
Thanks,
Bly
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Re: She's home --
I hope we get to experience your Stimson shed project with lots of words and pictures :).bhartley wrote:Pyxis made it home today. I think I am going to go with a modified Stimson shed as I need to work on the bottom. I can now take better measurements to figure the optimal size.
Thanks for all of the suggestions. Right now I'm just grateful that the trip home on the trailer was uneventful!
Bly