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 Post subject: What defines a Plastic Classic?
PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:02 pm 
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Hi guys.

I recently found this forum and have been coming back everyday, reading randomly through all the excellent information and seeing the great-looking boats around here!

One (potentially stupid) question popped to mind though:
- what exactly defines a boat as a Plastic Classic? (well... the 'plastic' part is pretty straighforward...)

I surfed around and couldn't find it, please don't flame me if I missed it.

Not that it's all that important, but just thought of asking. :o)

Tiago

PS: I'm from Lisbon, Portugal, and own a 1982 B-Jet (25ft swing-keel French boat) : http://s150.photobucket.com/albums/s114 ... Jet%20Lag/


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 Post subject: Re: What defines a Plastic Classic?
PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:31 pm 
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You won't get flamed for asking the question. You might get flamed for posting an answer.

I will say that 'classic' does not mean 'old'.

To my mind, 'classic', in the plastic classic sense, means 'Having long established form and values'.

The term is used rather loosely here which is probably a good thing. No one is excluded but if you find fin keels with bulbs is what sets your heart a flutter then you might feel a bit bored and out of place here.

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1. of the first or highest quality, class, or rank: a classic piece of work.
2. serving as a standard, model, or guide: the classic method of teaching arithmetic.
3. of or pertaining to Greek and Roman antiquity, esp. with reference to literature and art.
4. modeled upon or imitating the style or thought of ancient Greece and Rome: The 17th and 18th centuries were obsessed with classic ideals.
5. of or adhering to an established set of artistic or scientific standards or methods: a classic example of mid-Victorian architecture.
6. basic; fundamental: the classic rules of warfare.
7. of enduring interest, quality, or style: a classic design; classic clothes.
8. of literary or historical renown: the classic haunts of famous writers.
9. traditional or typical: a classic comedy routine.
10. definitive: the classic reference work on ornithology.
11. of or pertaining to automobiles distinguished by elegant styling, outstanding engineering, and fine workmanship that were built between about 1925 and 1948.

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 Post subject: Re: What defines a Plastic Classic?
PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:49 pm 
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A Plastic Classic can be anything you like...

Personally, I apply the label "Plastic Classic" to boats that were built during the 1960s or earlier. Those were the earliest incarnations of fiberglass boats. Boats like Pearsons, Cals, Allieds, Boston Whalers, and Bertrams come to mind. Many of those boats are still around (and still desirable) which really impresses me on the longevity of fiberglass...


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 Post subject: Re: What defines a Plastic Classic?
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I haven't posted for a while, so this looks like a good arena to throw my hat into :-)
My definition of a Classic Plastic is any fiberglass sailboat that is no longer made, but is still a desirable and popular boat.

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I think Peter's definition is a good one--one that leaves the final decision open to an individual's interpretation without attempting to force things into too narrow a category.

I was going to say it's really just a name, a title for these forums that has no particular definition, and certainly isn't a restrictive connotation as far as this forum goes. I had to name the forum something, after all.

People here have sailboats, powerboats, wooden boats, newer boats, older boats, and even some boats that might be hard to fit into any true definition of "classic", but what really matters is the owner's dedication to their particular boat and a desire to do well for her--whatever she is.

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 Post subject: Re: What defines a Plastic Classic?
PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:43 am 
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Tim wrote:
I was going to say it's really just a name, a title for these forums that has no particular definition, and certainly isn't a restrictive connotation as far as this forum goes. I had to name the forum something, after all.

Makes sense. The name is quite catchy though! :o)

Tim wrote:
what really matters is the owner's dedication to their particular boat and a desire to do well for her--whatever she is.

Well... since I've been spending most of my evenings either scraping, sanding, varnishing ("Cetol-ing", actually) and otherwise messing around on JetLag I may fit in the category.

Thanks to all.

Tiago


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Now I'm not sure but I get to see it in a different way. I deal with classic cars, and a car is concidered a classic after 35 yrs, and my 1975 C-22 and the 1977 C-26 a both Chryslers comming of that age .


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Peter wrote:
I haven't posted for a while, so this looks like a good arena to throw my hat into :-)
My definition of a Classic Plastic is any fiberglass sailboat that is no longer made, but is still a desirable and popular boat.


I like this one....

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Good old boat magazine started a regatta in Tampa bay last year and they define a classic boat as anything over 20 years old. Then again I think that’s for inclusion of most of the boat owners that don’t have million dollar yachts. I think we appreciate our joules more anyway. There are plenty of those at my marina, they even pay the marina staff to warm up there big motors and turn the air conditioning on, so that all they have to do is get in and go.

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 Post subject: Re: What defines a Plastic Classic?
PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:53 am 
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Ric in Richmond wrote:
Peter wrote:
I haven't posted for a while, so this looks like a good arena to throw my hat into :-)
My definition of a Classic Plastic is any fiberglass sailboat that is no longer made, but is still a desirable and popular boat.


I like this one too, but I own an `77 Contessa32. By many called a classic. The last one`s where made in de eighties. They are so disired so they began to produce them again.... so this would be a super-classic ? :-)


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