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Idon84

That's a good question. Something I have though about as well for sure. The first time, many many years ago, that I sanded a bottom with the rest of our sailing crew, the skipper and #1 were extremely ADAMANT about NOT putting an edge onto the sander. They wanted to keep the hull nice, fair and not ...

Idon84

Thanks for the how to! I'm planning on using the Shaw Blue for the hull, Orcas White for the topsides & Vashon Gray for the nonskid. I have tried to find places where others have rated the paint but cannot find any. If you have any issues or see anything in the future I would like to hear about ...

Idon84

Here is a quick pic. You can see the multiple layers of round cloth in successive layers. On this one I started with 10" then an 8" then 6" etc... Not shown is the final layer which was square & bigger than the whole repair by about 4" all the way around.

Idon84

Seconded!

Grind a bevel then multiple round pieces of cloth (I use 1708 Biax) to build up thickness again from the inside. Fill and fair the outside once done. I only use epoxy for my repairs. Good Luck!, but it's not all that difficult.

Idon84

Wow Chris. That is looking good! I love the part when things just start to go back together... Makes you forget about all the nasty, dirty work done before.

Idon84

1" foam (the brand I found is from DOW) from the hardware store sold in 4x8 sheets. I run them through the table saw... Takes a bit getting use to but once you figure out the technique it goes quite fast.

Idon84

AGREED! They are really sweet...

Idon84

When I get a bulkhead fitted just right the edge that is against the hull is not always the same distance from the hull so just cutting 1" from that measurement would create high and low spots. Sometimes the gap is 3/4" sometimes only 1/4". When I fit the bulkhead the 1" of foam ...

Idon84

Here are some pictures...

Idon84

There are defiantly different ways to make sure there is not a hard spot, but for me, I have found that using 1" blue foam is the easiest for me. I use a tick stick to get the general dimensions of the bulkhead, I then cut what I measured out of cardboard and test fit. When done right you just ...

Idon84

OK sanded and finished. I think I'll use it.

Thanks for the opinions.

Idon84

Thanks, I'll try it.

Idon84

Thanks for the opinions, kind of what I was figuring. I'll try rounding the corners first. But I don't want to be thinking about it again so I'll probably just use that piece for one of the smaller thru hulls. It's only money right?

Idon84

I was thinking of doing that too but wasn't sure if that would help much...

Idon84

I laminated up 20 layers of 1708 Biax to make a 18"x24" piece of 1" thick for backing mounting my thru hulls. Yes I know you can buy the stuff but I wanted to experiment while I had some time and extra materials. When finished I cut out my first part pictured here... http://i271.photo...

Idon84

Wow. You do know everything!

Thanks,

Idon84

Great documentary for sure! I've watched it about a half a dozen times. For me, my main interest was in seeing more the footage shot by Moitessier. Speaking of that, does anyone know where you can get ALL of the footage? There are a few videos on YouTube but very few in the way of his '68 1 & 1/...

Idon84

That's what I figured... Thanks,

Idon84

While we are on the subject of bottom paint. What kind of paint would be recommended for a dinghy that sits on the trailer 50% of the time an on a mooring the other 50% of the time? I would love to have the ease of an ablative but it would be easily removed when put on the trailer. Is a hard paint t...

Idon84

My boomkin is Honduras Mahogany. My bowsprit will be doug fir.

Idon84

I bought a CAPE HORN windvane long before I plan on finishing my project because I got such a good deal on it through a group buy. So I too have a $4K toy that I only spent $2.6K on that is sitting quietly waiting for me to finish the boat so I can use it. I will carry no other autopilots (not a big...

Idon84

I KNOW, tell me about it! I just saw a demo version at the chandlery here in Seattle. Droool.

Idon84

UPDATE:

Whoaaa... How did I ever do anything without the PC7335 before? What a tool! Eats paint like a grinder without any scaring of the gelcoat.

Idon84

YES that sound about right, 3-4 by hand and I'm sure I could get another couple with the wrench. I think it should be be fine, I was just a little confused because the thru hull threaded perfectly into the Ball Valve but the Ball Valve did not thread into the IBVF anywhere near as easy.

Idon84

AGREED! Not for strength just to protect the insulation. One of the many reasons for not wanting to do this. I do not intend on adding any wood to cover anywhere. I'm in the process of laminating some 1708 in multiple layers to see how thick it is with 1 layer, 2 layers,... etc. I've also made a tes...

Idon84

That's my fear David, mismatched threads. I went to West Marine and tested the Groco ball valve to exactly duplicate the picture above. The Groco BV didn't go on any further either, so I guess this is normal as Tim points out. And I guess only time will tell how well those BVs from Marine Hardware l...

Idon84

Ok so at the risk of sounding totally crazy, I'll give you an idea of what I was thinking about doing for insulation... So from what I’m reading my plan is TOTALLY different and probably OVERKILL. I was going to add ½” sheet foam as my insulation covered in 1708. My plan was to finish all of the bul...

Idon84

When we bought the Cosmic Dancer there were 3 thru hulls that were set up as ball valves screwed onto the thru hulls. Knowing that this is not the preferred method I set out to figure out what I was going to do. I settled on trying the Groco IBVF because new seacocks were expensive and the ball valv...

Idon84

Thanks Britton for posting. I'll have to read it later though after running up to Port Townsend for more boat parts this weekend. I understand hiding the insulation behind wood but I don't plan on doing much wood other than edge trim inside. Areas like behind the settee backs for example won't have ...

Idon84

VERY TRUE!

Idon84

D, YES. My boat needs better flotation as well. My buddy capsized it about 6 miles from any other boat or marina and was out on a day that I personally would not have been out in. He was able to right (first time he ever capsized) because we went over the procedure ahead of time, thank GOD. Anyway h...

Idon84

I am at the point where I will need to insulate or not. All I have right now is the ceramic coating for the paint but that is as far as I have gone. How about installation details. How do you attach the stuff? Put down the Reflectix with contact cement, epoxy, anything? Then the foam. How do you att...

Idon84

Your probably right... I can't find anything that states that in the rules. Can't remember the exact circumstances of the conversation but I remember coming away from the conversation thinking I needed to upgrade the boat first. Canada, apparently, didn't have any issues with vessels that dump waist...

Idon84

YES DAVID!

Idon84

Bill, Just contact your local CG Office to ask the questions. I spoke with them last year for the same reason. I didn't like the numbers on my bow either but had to put them there because I would not have passed CG documentation. I didn't have a waste holding tank etc. Your vessel must be up to CG s...

Idon84

Wa state doesn't require state registration #'s on CG documented vessels or vessels W/O an engine of any kind. Sign shops are the ONLY place to get custom vinyl. Store bought is of lousy quality. Make sure the sign shop rounds all square corners for best adhesion as stated above. Also there are diff...

Idon84

When I worked at a vinyl shop signing police cars, commercial vans etc, we used a pressurized steam gun and some of those plastic razor blades linked to above. Get under one part and gently work your way out. I would think you could use an iron too but would be defiantly more dangerous to the surfac...

Idon84

Ok back to the tubing.

It was cake. Got them all done by drilling out to 1/4"

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Thanks again,

Idon84

BTW I love that McMaster Carr place, once you get use to using the site. They seem to have everything.

Idon84

Got a HUGE fleet here in Seattle. The only problem is that my mast is the Original OLD stiff mast. Just about every thistle around here has the more flexible aluminum or carbon masts which have a totally different set up. I did speak to a few of them but all they wanted to do was sell me a "bet...

Idon84

Very interesting... Didn't know any of this. I'll paint.

Idon84

Thanks for the link. Unfortunately they and several other links that were given to me didn't have anything that small. The closes was 1/2" OD. It seems as if everywhere I look, boat parts can be found MUCH more economically and easily through the internet even with shipping added. Hence finding...

Idon84

I have not used it but myself but know several who have and they all love the stuff.

Idon84

OK I've got what may be a dumb question. Got a Thistle to keep me sailing while I'm working on the Cosmic Dancer and the mast took some damage this winter with all of the snow we got. Where does one find parts for dinghy rigging? Specifically I have these little jumper stays, 3 total each side of th...

Idon84

I've been thinking of this too although it my wife's decision (she gets interior say on projects). But I've suggested to her while we are rebuilding the galley to find some kind of universal container(something that won't go out of production any time soon)... a 4 gal bucket sounds good, and find a ...

Idon84

There were two large zincs on the port side lower pintel and gudgeon as well as a prop zinc (which you can just see). In the amount of time I've owned the boat, before I pulled it out of the water, it sat infront of my father in-laws home away from other boats. I never really got a good gauge into h...

Idon84

I couldn't get balsa in my order either. I ordered almost 2k is stuff today but the balsa was NOT included in the offer. I'll buy that local.

Idon84

I don't know enough about the bilgekote to know how well it works or doesn't work. I only know what has been recommended to me be a couple of different people. Hence my conclusion above. On the other hand an epoxy paint, I'm sure, would be much more durable. OK Ernie, still on the fence. more invest...

Idon84

Funny Dick, I've got over $150 in gift cards to WM from my Sept. Wedding... Can't find any good reason to use it yet as I get more bang for my bucks elsewhere. Those gift cards came from WM employees who probably only had to pay 50% of the price of the gift card. My wife is waiting for a big sale to...

Idon84

Ernie said:

Any thoughts on the damper areas of the bilge?

I will be using Bildgekote in my bilge... Then the Zisser everywhere else. Primer everywhere and I'll try the Semi Gloss where I need that little bit of bright.

Good Stuff!

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