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Idon84

So the stuff David is using is different from the stuff Peter is using. The primer, called Bulls Eye 1-2-3 is the water based primer. http://www.zinsser.com/product_detail.asp?ProductID=11 While Peter is using the Perma-White interior paint which IS an acrylic latex. http://www.zinsser.com/product_d...

Idon84

Peter & David,

Thanks for the update and the vote of confidence in Zisser. I was waiting to hear your opinion. Saves me serious cash for sure!

Idon84

That's the right hand corner... I hate being dyslexic!

Idon84

Britton Was on Jamestown Distributors site today looking at how much I'm going to have to give them and a little banner in the left hand corner reads "FREE STATE WIDE SHIPPING, Orders over $100." JOY! What perfect timing for me. Hopefully others can use it too! Maybe you can get your 4.35 ...

Idon84

That looks great!

Idon84

One day at a time! Little by little. Thanks for the comments!

Idon84

Rachel Said Any chance you can still shoot that person? No... He's dead now. Love to figure out what he was thinking in this and a few other areas though... I'm almost finished removing all that 5200... Sharp chisels with a steady hand, my new friend PB Blaster to soften it up and plenty of towels f...

Idon84

I'm going to go with the System Three for sure... Nothing last forever right? Besides I the non toxic part of it is EXTREMELY inviting. I'll be sure to follow the instructions to the T to be sure I did everything I possibly could. Plenty of coats and the cross-linker on the final coat, or where ever...

Idon84

Didn't take any pics but it does defiantly soften up the 5200. But as stated above keep it only where you want it!

Idon84

Currently all of my wood mast and boom fittings are 5200'd on. I've been slowly working on removing it. Dolfinite would be the material of choice here then? Below is a pic of the lower spreader attachment. Gotta fiddle away at that 5200 for a while... ugh! [img][img]http://i271.photobucket.com/album...

Idon84

I agree. I've been looking for anything bad about the stuff online. Seems all I can find are people complaining that it's not glossy enough... That works perfect for me. I'm still leaning that way, especially after reading your blog. I'm not painting right away but I will be fairing, barrier coating...

Idon84

Thanks Tim.

Idon84

Gonna get a small batch of System Three LPU for testing on my fatty knees. Just because.

Idon84

Yea that is the problem, no way to ever know. Until speaking with him on Tues. I was 100% for the System Three, even had my colors picked out. Shaw Blue, Orca White for the decks and Bainbridge white for the non skid... Of course he did say that "it's been a long time, if there were problems th...

Idon84

I just spoke with a good sailor/builder friend of mine about paints. He built a Corsair 24 trimaran back some years ago and used System Three's LPU. After 3 years he said the paint started to chalk off. Has anyone else heard of this issue? He did mention that the issue could have been fixed since th...

Idon84

I spent 3 hours last night slowly chiseling away some 5200 left by my hawse pipes after removal from my taffrail. During those whole 3 hours my PB Blaster was within arms reach! I'm gonna try it tonight and hopefully post some progress pictures. Thanks for the tip, I've got a lot more 5200 to deal w...

Idon84

BTW... I use vinegar and I like never dull as well!

Idon84

Maybe I should start a new thread but, how do you know when bronze is still good enough to use? Some of my parts are partially pink, some with minor pits but in all look in decent shape. [img][img]http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj147/Idon84/IMG_0045.jpg[/img][/img] The bob stay on the left above...

Idon84

I can relate to the picture above... Took FOREVER to be able to get this out. In the end the bulkhead to the centerline of the boat was so rotten from water that we just yanked that out and removed the box that way.

Idon84

This is interesting... SO many different thoughts on the subject. The Kollman marine site mentions 4-6mil plastic. This is the first time I'm even hearing this although it makes perfect sense. I had originally plan on using 4" of foam utilizing 1/2" blue foam from Home Depot with a layer o...

Idon84

Had to break down and try one too! Got lots of sanding ahead of me. I've got 2 Dewalt random orbital sanders and I love them. The PC 7335 looks like it would be more comfortable on above the head surfaces than the Dewalts.

Thanks for the tip!

Idon84

Well so much for opening my mouth: Quoted from earlier in this thread, Got the same issue although my cover boards are not rotten from what I can see. WRONG!!!! I though I would check them out and low and behold... Rotten Spongy parts. JOY! Now that I get to do this job, I will most probably be usin...

Idon84

I'm at the point of starting to think about paint. Thanks for the info and keep us informed as to the the process. I'm a horrible painter and would love to find an easier way without having to come up with right consitancy even if it means less than glossy. Currently I have brightsides Largo Blue th...

Idon84

I thicken my epoxy with Colloidal silica to a thin soupy consistency and fill using a small syringe.

Idon84

Some major wet core that I missed was around the bottom of the portlights. 4 of the 6 had been leaking for some time and I had to completely cut out the inner core on the inside to dig away the bad core. What is wrong with my english? Replace portlight with porthole, and inner core with inner lamin...

Idon84

Warren, I'm just seeing this now. When I bought the Cosmic Dancer my main concern was the core. I know this is not a tried and true method but I used my 300+ lbs. body with a springing step to see if I felt deck move at all. This doesn't work with all boats especially lighter boats but the BCC shoul...

Idon84

I'm just now seeing your replies... How lame of me to not keep track. Anyway, Zach, the old sampson posts were 4x4 and were tabbed to the hull forward. They were cut pretty close to the hull shape and then filled in with thickened epoxy. This is NOT the way the Sam L Morse yard did it tough. The pos...

Idon84

Try This...

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Idon84

Warren, Got the same issue although my cover boards are not rotten from what I can see. I plan on simply removing all of the stanchion bases, removing all the varnish & sealer between the planks, the filling and fairing the boards with thickened epoxy followed by a light layer of cloth over the ...

Idon84

Britton, I've heard that before too. I guess that is where my confusion comes in. So, what kind of tactics, if any, do all of you use? I have read Casey, Calder, & Pascoe's (now going to find Payne & Miller) writings on the subject but because there are so many opinions I end up falling back...

Idon84

OK... so I have to ask. How important is a grounding strap? I've never personally seen one being associated with so many racers. We get very little in the way of lightning around here. I'm thinking with my wooden (explosive nature) mast and dreams of travel I'm guessing it would be something I would...

Idon84

The winter blues have taken hold even before winter officially begins. All the epoxy and tabbing work for the main bulkheads as well as all of the other base epoxy work has been completed before the arrival of cold weather. Even though we have added 3 layers of 1708 Biax tabbing over major bulkheads...

Idon84

Great visuals! Helps to understand why chamfering is so important for sealing.

Idon84

David seems full of great ideas... WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THAT? !+$&#@ Boat work takes up enough too much time, it's nice to have other to help think for you!

CHEERS!

-a slightly buzzed & crazy plastic boat slave... Bryon

Idon84

Hey Warren, Good to see you around here. I'm sure you will find a TON of boat info here that you will have a hard time finding anywhere else. A plastic boat is a plastic boat no matter who makes it! Anyway I would agree with the others that tape is only temporary thing to do. I would much agree that...

Idon84

Idon84

Problem Solved! Can maintain 57 degrees inside during 40 degrees outside. Gotta love those power bills! 1000W Shop Light and my radiant heater.

Idon84

Knowing what I know about the boat. My guess is the owner didn't want to have to buy something extra to keep them open!

Idon84

How about the Westsail32?

Idon84

David, You are quite right. They are in upside down. Bought the boat that way and have every intention on installing them correctly next time. They are all currently receiving a light grit sandblasting and polishing. I am technically the 2nd owner, on paper, but a 3rd party fixed it up and sold it f...

Idon84

Agreed. I like MAS the best. Used West to rebuilt my thistle. Worked very well but the smell got to me. MAS doesn't have quite as bad of a smell. Never used System 3. I get my MAS epoxy from Infinity Composites http://stores.infinityfrp.com/StoreFront.bok $59 per Gallon of Resin $85 per Gallon for H...

Idon84

I wana have a shop like Tim's... sigh

Idon84

Thanks guys! Great stuff. During the last few weeks the temp around here has dropped so fast that it is quite easy to tell that the epoxy is working entirely differently. CharlieJ said, 500 watt Quartz shop lights give off a great deal of heat- We have been using this shop light to pre heat the epox...

Idon84

Great thread! I have another question at this point. Tim Said, Any cooler than this (45-50°), and I'd suggest one ought to seriously consider postponing the epoxy work till better temperatures can be guaranteed. Some things aren't worth pushing the envelope for. I would defiantly agree to that. MAS ...

Idon84

Here in the NW I'm seeing quite a difference in cure time with my MAS medium hardener from this summer to now. At about 30 degrees at night and 55-60 during the day it takes about 3 days to get to the point where I can sand the epoxy and do anything to it. Anything before then clogs up my sandpaper.

Idon84

AGREED! PT Foundry is EXTREMELY difficult to work with as mentioned above. I met Pete personally a few months ago on a "fact finding mission" but when I went to order parts from him, he seemed to disappear. He is not hurting for work either, which may be one of the reasons. Fortunately, ow...

Idon84

GREAT! It's all ordered.

Idon84

Something else... Wouldn't it be prudent to use a backing material of the same type? If I've got a bronze part with bronze fastenings, I wouldn't want to use a stainless backing plate? I noticed David's link doesn't sell bronze. How important is it to have like metals for your backing plates. (I've ...

Idon84

David,

Thanks for the tip, link and a new book to read. Toss said increasing the bobstay wire is a good idea to help ease the mind as well. Currently all of my rigging is the same size. I do know that.

Thanks all again!

Idon84

Thanks for the tips, as always! The Dolphin striker is a GREAT idea for changing the angle but I don't want to change the looks of the BCC, I probably should have mentioned that. I've been reading Brion Toss' rigging book which is where I got my data i.e., angle, increasing wire size to compensate e...

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