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Duncan wrote:I would sand down the discoloured areas, and rebuild the finish as described.

That's fine on solid teak, but be very careful on the plywood. The veneer is not very thick.

Lemon juice is a good oil cleaner. Make sure it is not sweetened though.

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.............Any opinions on why the preferred topsides paints seem to be high gloss? It seems that almost everyone is infatuated with glare in your face shiny boats. Next boat I build or the next time I paint my Renegade I am going to use System 3 LPU with a semi-gloss finish. Semi-gloss is much m...

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Can you explain more about the taper? I've seen a lot of windlass installs on various plates/pedestals/backers, but I'm not sure I've seen one tapered. But I might be missing the concept, or maybe I just don't have a good eye, or I've been looking at bad installations? The gypsy of the windlass mus...

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I assume you are using some chain? 25 ft.? When hoisting the anchor with chain, even if just the last 25 feet or so the chain bounces up and down as links cross over the roller and/or around the gypsy. All of the systems I have installed have chafe guards on the deck to keep from wearing out a chann...

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Are the strings pulled taught and not touching anything including the mast step? If they are not perfectly situated at each end, and totally free of touching anything, then they might be inaccurate. Even then, depending on how you located the ends of the strings they may not be accurate any way. If ...

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I use "handy billies". Ooh, a new term for me! I had to look it up: a tackle comprising a single and double block. also jigger, watch tackle Now to figure a way to work it into conversation at my next cocktail party It would seem a good solution for this situation. Not as simple as the ca...

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Hi triton274, First of all, just so we are all on the same nautical page :) I think you will be painting the "overhead" ("ceiling" on a boat being some type of liner on the inside of the hull sides, like that white area on the right of the photo if you put strips of wood there)....

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If due to silicone contamination you question how sound the bond of the G 10 will be then you really have to consider that it should not be considered a structural component of your repair. If this is so, then the glass/resin work should be structural. If the glass/resin work is structural, preferab...

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You don't mention what the pad eyes are for, or how important the location might be, but even if location is not critical but some location is more desirable then..............

Case wrote:Don't let the core location determine the padeye location...

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Semco is one of those pigmented "treatments", like Cetol, and is available in 5 different shades. I would not make that comparison, it is an oil, not a surface material like Cetol. And there is a clear that has no pigment, or there was when last I used it. Other teak deck oils include Dek...

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Duncan wrote:
Hirilondë wrote:If keeping a brighter look than grey is important then a deck oil could be used. ...
Doesn't the oil turn the teak black when it's used outside?

No oil I have used turned teak black. Semco like Mike has suggested works well to delay greying.

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If keeping a brighter look than grey is important then a deck oil could be used. Keep in mind that is will need to be refreshed a couple times per season. Maybe the suggestion will seem a good compromise to your wife. And if later on you "discover" that it is too much trouble you can just ...

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But I've read so many admonitions against using 3M 4200 or 5200. So what else would fit the bill? And some of them were from me. But usually we were discussing bedding situations, and most things bedded will need removal. And the removal will damage the surface bedded to. Personally I think you hav...

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With respect to the upside down lapstrake approach, I think you're working against the nature of the beast. If you work from the ground toward the ridge, you'll need to perforate whatever you're using to secure supports so that you can climb toward the ridge. I recognize that this is commonly done ...

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That said, boat sheds (the inspector tells me) don't follow the same code as regular buildings since they're not considered inhabited, and if they fall down no one's too worried about the boat, it seems. Residential building code varies slightly from state to state and town to town, but differences...

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It seems you are now considering building a real building. In my town you would need a building permit for this and now be subject to building code. This would require structural footings, engineer approved design of the bows as they would now be called trusses, 24" centers as that is the max f...

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I don't like stains with a lot of solids in them like filler stains. They cover up the grain too much and often darken the wood more than I want. Actually, I don't like stains of any kind much. Wood is beautiful already and doesn't need my or any one else help with color. If it is important to you t...

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triton274 wrote: Ground out the 25+ drill holes in the hull and patched them with fiberglass.

Was the dinghy used as a planter or sand box?

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Brodie wrote: So I have some updating to do, but on the flip side I don't have to undo anyone else's "good" ideas.

That in itself is absolutely huge!

It looks like you found a boat where most of what you have to do is the fun stuff. Pretty boat.

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I believe even if only one part from the old boat is used in such a project, it qualifies as a "Rebuild". ... In this case, I believe it said they would be reusing the keel? and something else so yes, it more than qualifies. If you use the dictionary it qualifies, and it seems that Lloyds...

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I have tapped around down there and it does not feel very substantial. It does not "feel" substantial? What does it feel like that would lead you to believe this? Does it flex when you tap? Or do you really mean that the hollow sound makes you believe it is not substantial? The hollow par...

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............ (this seems to be a fairly weak spot on the hull that can be damaged if one backs into submerged objects). First of all I would try to avoid backing into submerged objects. Actually, I don't see how one could back into them fast enough to damage a boat. Second is the seems to be a weak...

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s/v Faith wrote: Recall having great fun with my dad flattening pennies on the rail road tracks... :)

I grew up near the tracks and were constantly trying to make a 6 pence. Place a penny on top of a nickel on the tracks. We never seemed to be able to find it though, so not sure it even works :)

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So you identify the sound, plug everything in to the formula and you know the tension. It tells you nothing useful regarding sail shape, center of effort, balance of the helm. You could evenly tension your mast with it leaning 10º to port and so much weather helm you can't keep from rounding up. Wha...

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Even if you could identify the note a shroud plays what does it tell you? And is this information helpful?

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Difficulty cleaning is probably the biggest negative about Interdeck. I haven't had any issue with staining, it is just difficult to clean. I try not to use harsh cleansers, but have found that abrasive bleach products work best. I try to limit my use of these in the water. I have had no issue with ...

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This is done standing out side of the boat, the toe-rail being about 24'' above my head. I just bend the toe rail till it lines up to the curve of the deck and drive a screw.....when i get to that i will post pictures............:) Aha, your hull/deck joint is an overlap on the outside. I had envis...

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............... and of course, make sure you line up your slots... Very often this will compromise the fastening. It works fine with maching screws and nuts as you can align the slots then tighten the nut. But with screws it often requires over tightening some screws and risking a partial stripping...

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Well, I am Canadian, so I have to put in the point that Robertson head screws are far superior to slots or Philips. The screw will tend to stay on the driver, which is a great benefit when working in tight spots, and it is less likely to "cam out" (i.e. slip out) when installing or removi...

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Ah, yes. The screwdriver! Better known as the 'Do-all' tool - - - Frequently used for just about any purpose except driving screws. - - - Certainly the most abused tool in the tool box. In my case I have made a special tool for removing bungs out of a piece of tool steel with a teak handle. Most pe...

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The only thing I would add to the above posts concerns what you are fastening to. If you are screwing to fiberglass then bronze is not my choice. It would be for any other situation, but it breaks too easily when screwing into a really hard material. The threads dull going into fiberglass, then the ...

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....then fill from the outside using epoxy with Cabosil, West Colloidal Silica ........ Avoid micro balloons........ I totally disagree. Cabosil, aka colloidal silica, aka West 406 is an adhesive filler. It cures as hard as a rock when more than a token amount is used. You might want to add just a ...

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The pictures are small and dark, so they don't really help me much, but I can make some general comments and suggestions. By the way, a clamp light or trouble light help a lot taking photos in dark places. I don't believe this is a structural bulkhead. So in regards to the integrity of the boat I do...

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I would recommend getting the right size jack stands. Not just for your present project, but for the long haul. Even though opposing stands are chained together support lower down is more secure as the loads are carried more by the stand than the chains. The reverse is likely is in your case. Any mi...

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Gary wrote:You fine people here at the Plastic Classic Forum sure do know how to help a guy spend money. :-)....................... Price: $210.87 (marked down from $300.00)

The matching signal flag coasters and beer cozies will just have to wait a little while longer ;>)

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I think one of the biggest problem areas in a mooring set up is the chocks. Both the size and location of them is often poor for a mooring bridle. Too many boats have chocks that are too small and they are often located too far aft. The best angle for a mooring bridle is as close to straight forward...

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I have a bronze bit and you couldn't get me to change to anything else. 4 large bolts and a serious backer plate and I sleep really well on the boat and at home.

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Rachel wrote:It does for me (although the.tif image in your paint thread did not, for me).

More!

Ditto

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My feeling is that if it's cured enough to sand at all (i.e to sand drips only as you suggest), then it's past the safe hot-recoat period and you must sand it all to ensure proper adhesion of the next coat. I think that is the safest rule of thumb one can go by for determining the hot recoating win...

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I'm planning on using varnish, unless you say different Either that or shellac, both work great. You might even want to let some thicken up a little so that it isn't so runny. Or even better, use the left overs from an old job. I like shellac for interior work as it cleans up with alcohol which is ...

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It seems several people are installing woodwork to the exterior of their boats this winter/spring. This got me to thinking about another process that many people make serious mistakes doing. This is the installing and securing of bungs over fasteners. Rather than just giving you the answer to how I ...

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Not only can you, but I highly recommend it. I did 3 coats, getting all but the top each coat. The goal was to get not just the hidden areas, but to have a continuous coat from them to the sides such as to avoid a mechanical seam in the varnish near where the caulking would end. This way the varnish...

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I had one on my Blue Jay as a kid (snubbing winch), mounted on the centerboard trunk. Only used it in heavy wind. It allows you to keep the sheet in your hand without the total strain otherwise experienced holding it.

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I don't have anything to add to this discussion, but I must say that I like the idea of random pictures being added to threads when no specific picture is required or available to accompany the words/descriptions. Good one Rachel, I hope this trend continues! http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/ae106...

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It does look great Gary, both the joinery and installation. The epoxy was about like catsup this time. Soupy mayonnaise works too :-). That is a great analogy for the consistency of epoxy for gluing wood. The thickener is just to help the goo bridge gaps in a joint. You are not making filler. Photos...

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..... will the longer arch and therefore greater bending of the epoxy in the scarf cause the epoxy to crack? Longer arch of what? Are you asking if the longer scarf will have more bending? If so, this doesn't change anything. The toe rail, whether solid wood or laminated like at the scarf bends at ...

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The "decorative" flat bits at the ends" (although they look curved to me) add to the glued surface, but make the joint more susceptible to cracking. So even if the joint were 8x long, this decorative feature would be a detriment to the integrity of the joint. Maybe you can get away wi...

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Several things to discuss about the scarfs. 1. the shape - The strongest shape for a scarf that will come under load from bending is a straight scarf. It appears that you used a form of an S shape. This resembles grain run out as where the joint exits the wood is almost perpendicular to the loads. T...

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Definitely a Cheoy Lee, you can tell by the decorative scroll at the fore and aft end of the cove stripe. Sad indeed. Not all boats need to be saved, but that one does.

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I’m now installing new toe rails and having a little trouble. The scarf joints are splitting or popping apart during installation. I used West Systems epoxy with 404 additive as the adhesive. Is 403 a better choice? The best additive for gluing wood is 406 aka colloidal silica, but that should not ...

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