My new to me Westsail32
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My new to me Westsail32
Hi folks, my first post/question as the owner of BALANCE!
Does a company exist that custom makes propane tanks? Mine is in the one and only lazarette in the cockpit. I would keep it there if I could get a sort of triangular one that would fit flush in the aft end with a door opening in the front instead of the top...
Thanks, Nanette
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Does a company exist that custom makes propane tanks? Mine is in the one and only lazarette in the cockpit. I would keep it there if I could get a sort of triangular one that would fit flush in the aft end with a door opening in the front instead of the top...
Thanks, Nanette
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Westsail32
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Welcome, Nanette!
I imagine it's possible to get custom tanks, although I've never known of anyone to get it done. I notice that most propane storage devices are some form of cylinder (even huge storage tanks), so I have a feeling the cylindricality of them is important from a strength perspective.
Also, I have a feeling you'd find people reluctant to fill an "odd" tank, even if it were technically up to spec.
I lived and sailed on a Westsail 32 for a while -- many happy memories. They are a bit tough when it comes to propane storage. We had a custom box (built by PO) that filled in the after half of the cockpit and held two 11# tanks (we converted from 1 25# tank and found the two much handier for a variety of reasons). That setup worked pretty well, even though at first I thought "Ugh."
I can't wait to see photos of your boat! :)
Rachel
I imagine it's possible to get custom tanks, although I've never known of anyone to get it done. I notice that most propane storage devices are some form of cylinder (even huge storage tanks), so I have a feeling the cylindricality of them is important from a strength perspective.
Also, I have a feeling you'd find people reluctant to fill an "odd" tank, even if it were technically up to spec.
I lived and sailed on a Westsail 32 for a while -- many happy memories. They are a bit tough when it comes to propane storage. We had a custom box (built by PO) that filled in the after half of the cockpit and held two 11# tanks (we converted from 1 25# tank and found the two much handier for a variety of reasons). That setup worked pretty well, even though at first I thought "Ugh."
I can't wait to see photos of your boat! :)
Rachel
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Welcome to the forum.
I would be very surprised to see a propane tank in any shape other than cylindrical, or perhaps spherical.
Propane tanks qualify as pressure vessels, and as such must meet specifics of engineering and testing. It is very difficult to engineer a pressure vessel in any shape other than round, and if someone did engineer, and test a triangular pressure tank it would be so heavy you would have a difficult time handling it, and you would end up paying standard industry rates to engineer and build the tank. Also, the firm I work for, which builds pressure vessels would have to charge in excess of $10,000 to engineer, register, build and test such a vessel, with no guarantee that the Govt. agency that controls these things would accept the unusual design.
Unless there is something I am totally unaware of, sorry, You will have to live with what's out there.
Feetup
I would be very surprised to see a propane tank in any shape other than cylindrical, or perhaps spherical.
Propane tanks qualify as pressure vessels, and as such must meet specifics of engineering and testing. It is very difficult to engineer a pressure vessel in any shape other than round, and if someone did engineer, and test a triangular pressure tank it would be so heavy you would have a difficult time handling it, and you would end up paying standard industry rates to engineer and build the tank. Also, the firm I work for, which builds pressure vessels would have to charge in excess of $10,000 to engineer, register, build and test such a vessel, with no guarantee that the Govt. agency that controls these things would accept the unusual design.
Unless there is something I am totally unaware of, sorry, You will have to live with what's out there.
Feetup
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Hi Nanette (formerly Scout, right?),
How much vertical clearance do you have? If the goal is simply to keep it at the rear of the locker, why not just construct a simple box or frame that fits flush against the back of the locker?
I really like the Westsail 32's, by the way. They're distinctive, but still classic looking and they just exude sea-worthiness. Congrats on the new boat!
How much vertical clearance do you have? If the goal is simply to keep it at the rear of the locker, why not just construct a simple box or frame that fits flush against the back of the locker?
I really like the Westsail 32's, by the way. They're distinctive, but still classic looking and they just exude sea-worthiness. Congrats on the new boat!
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Yes to all!
Rachel, this was the boat you lived on, that I've seen you to refer to in the past?
218, that's my existing problem, vertical clearance. It's bolted on forward end of lazarette, under a lip that covers 3/4's of the top of the tank. If it went to the aft end the lip is deeper, ergo a door, vs. a lid (in my fantasy). What prompted thses thoughts is this link, (I don't want what he has, btw)
http://picasaweb.google.com/jaybietz/Py ... MiscPhotos
Thanks for the kind words on WS32's, I love this boat.
Scout is safe and sound and still loved and cared for by Brian.
Rachel, this was the boat you lived on, that I've seen you to refer to in the past?
218, that's my existing problem, vertical clearance. It's bolted on forward end of lazarette, under a lip that covers 3/4's of the top of the tank. If it went to the aft end the lip is deeper, ergo a door, vs. a lid (in my fantasy). What prompted thses thoughts is this link, (I don't want what he has, btw)
http://picasaweb.google.com/jaybietz/Py ... MiscPhotos
Thanks for the kind words on WS32's, I love this boat.
Scout is safe and sound and still loved and cared for by Brian.
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Another option, perhaps
I grew up sailing on a Westsail 32 on SF bay. She had two propane tanks mounted in fiberglass lockers mounted to the boom gallows. Not the most attractive, but functional.
Here's a picture:
Just thought I'd throw that out there.
David
Here's a picture:
Just thought I'd throw that out there.
David
Yep. (That said, I've been lucky enough to live and sail on two different-yet-similar boats, so sometimes what I've posted might have referred to the other one, which was a Baba 30).BALANCE wrote:Rachel, this was the boat you lived on, that I've seen you to refer to in the past?
I was much more involved with maintenance and mods on the Westsail though, and we did quite a bit of it on that boat. I'm at work now, but I can post some photos of the propane locker later if you'd like me to.
I should add that this particular Westsail is (still) owned by a friend of mine, who's actually a member here, although I don't think he reads the board much.
This'll be fun having you here with a new-to-you W-32 :)
Rachel
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I wish, then I'd be answering questions instead of asking.
Speaking of which, with more research I have found that you can buy the tanks from an RV supplier at a fraction of the 'marine' price.
If a box goes on deck I still can't figure out how the hose should exit the box (high or low) and, if high, how do you get through the deck or cabin roof and not be an eyesore. I'm thinking that either fore or aft of the mast would be best for multiple benefits, perhaps a raised grated bottom. And from here I'm stumped.
Comments?
Speaking of which, with more research I have found that you can buy the tanks from an RV supplier at a fraction of the 'marine' price.
If a box goes on deck I still can't figure out how the hose should exit the box (high or low) and, if high, how do you get through the deck or cabin roof and not be an eyesore. I'm thinking that either fore or aft of the mast would be best for multiple benefits, perhaps a raised grated bottom. And from here I'm stumped.
Comments?
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Westsail32
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